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Old 09-08-2013, 03:57 PM   #3681 (permalink)
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My kids so ergo I am currently suckered in by Disney Infinity, which is going to end up becoming very expensive.

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Old 09-08-2013, 03:59 PM   #3682 (permalink)
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GW2 gameplay is nothing like WoW or EQ2 gameplay though.
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Old 09-08-2013, 04:02 PM   #3683 (permalink)
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I don't know, I'm extremely bored of regular MMO gameplay. It's outdated by like 5-6 years or more and I'm looking forward to playing an MMO that has full real-time combat. You can stealth in ESO like you can in Skyrim, go crouch, sneak up and get bonus damage for being stealth, move on to next guy. Block/attack/spells are all in real-time, it's first person which is unique to the genre.

FF14 looks like GW2 which looks like WoW which looks like EQ2. I'm personally very much looking forward to a change.
I don't think it's dated, it's what is popular so it's what people play and devs make. That's just the combat. FF14 actually has a good amount of differences from WoW.

I think ESO is unique which makes it interesting, but I also think it has a really big chance of flopping.
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Old 09-08-2013, 04:29 PM   #3684 (permalink)
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GW2 gameplay is nothing like WoW or EQ2 gameplay though.
I played GW2 for a while and other than the fact that weapons determine what skills you have, it's WoW/EQ/SW/countless others with better graphics. It's a third person game that relies heavily on cooldowns with your skills auto targeting everything. I played WoW and GW2 exactly the same, you just run up to an enemy and start spamming your auto-target cooldowns.

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I don't think it's dated, it's what is popular so it's what people play and devs make. That's just the combat. FF14 actually has a good amount of differences from WoW.

I think ESO is unique which makes it interesting, but I also think it has a really big chance of flopping.
You are right in that it's what the masses like, I'm just not one of the masses. I don't like modern military shooters like BF/CoD, yet they sell like nuts.

I've been playing "stand still, throw out auto-target cooldowns while enemy beats on me" MMO's since 1999, it feels extremely outdated to me at this point.
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Old 09-08-2013, 04:35 PM   #3685 (permalink)
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It can go both ways though. For example, this gameplay is new to MMO's but the gameplay itself isn't anywhere near new.
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It can go both ways though. For example, this gameplay is new to MMO's but the gameplay itself isn't anywhere near new.
The gameplay of TES isn't new but it's never been done before in an MMO as you said. A game (MMO) that has to last me 500+ hours needs to have some fresh gameplay to keep me interested at this point, and a first person real-time MMO is worth trying out to me, where as another third person stand still while we hit each other MMO just doesn't interest me anymore. I played Everquest which came out in 99 and I've played most "popular" MMO's such as SW/GW/WoW, and they really are all the same with minior tweaks.

Obviously opinions/taste come into play, if you guys still like that kind of gameplay then that's cool.

As for what I am playing, honestly I haven't played anything since beating Tomb Raider like a week ago. The Wonderful 101 comes out on the 15th which will be fun, and GTA5 on the... 19th? I think.
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I played GW2 for a while and other than the fact that weapons determine what skills you have, it's WoW/EQ/SW/countless others with better graphics. It's a third person game that relies heavily on cooldowns with your skills auto targeting everything. I played WoW and GW2 exactly the same, you just run up to an enemy and start spamming your auto-target cooldowns.



You are right in that it's what the masses like, I'm just not one of the masses. I don't like modern military shooters like BF/CoD, yet they sell like nuts.

I've been playing "stand still, throw out auto-target cooldowns while enemy beats on me" MMO's since 1999, it feels extremely outdated to me at this point.
I actually thought GW2 took everything that was bad in those games and improved it. You can't really stand still in GW2 or you'll be dead. The real time dodging and the way bosses are built make you move constantly. And that's just one of the reasons why GW2 feels much less outdated than most of the EQ style MMOs out there.

Can't say I think it's the best game out there, I've actually grown to hate everything MMO. Optional co-op is where it's at if you ask me (for player vs environment content).

Oh and there aren't nearly enough good business simulation games out there. If I were a game designer I'd make one where you can do everything... like Capitalism 2 but even more options.
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I actually thought GW2 took everything that was bad in those games and improved it. You can't really stand still in GW2 or you'll be dead. The real time dodging and the way bosses are built make you move constantly. And that's just one of the reasons why GW2 feels much less outdated than most of the EQ style MMOs out there.

Can't say I think it's the best game out there, I've actually grown to hate everything MMO. Optional co-op is where it's at if you ask me (for player vs environment content).
Maybe at end game or later in the game you are right, can't say. I played until around level 25-30 and quit because it got boring. I actually did just run up and stand still while attacking and made it to near the end of a large snowy area without any problems.

I agree with the co-op preference, some of the best gaming moments I've had were co-op. Saints Row 3/Portal 2 etc.
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I actually thought GW2 took everything that was bad in those games and improved it. You can't really stand still in GW2 or you'll be dead. The real time dodging and the way bosses are built make you move constantly. And that's just one of the reasons why GW2 feels much less outdated than most of the EQ style MMOs out there.

Can't say I think it's the best game out there, I've actually grown to hate everything MMO. Optional co-op is where it's at if you ask me (for player vs environment content).

Oh and there aren't nearly enough good business simulation games out there. If I were a game designer I'd make one where you can do everything... like Capitalism 2 but even more options.
Eh Guild Wars 2 was a major bust. I honestly think the questing is the most boring out of any mmo I have ever played. End game was just horrid. (At least when I played) And the PVP was hyped to no end and really wasn't that spectacular imo.

They may have done well where other mmo's didn't. but they also did awful where others succeeded.
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Old 09-08-2013, 08:35 PM   #3690 (permalink)
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Wow was and still is,due to xpacs and updates, the best mmo ever. It still.offers an unparalelled amount of end game challenges that blow gw2 and sw out of the water. Many aspects are outdated but in terms of a polished experience that lasts, no one is in competition with blizz.

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