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Old 11-06-2013, 08:36 PM   #3981 (permalink)
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Picked up and started playing COD Ghosts on the '360 yesterday.

IMO, it's not an upgrade over BOII. In a nutshell, it's like someone decided to re-release BOII, but minus all the features that made it fun in the first place.

To me, the gameplay feels a lot like playing a PC version of the original COD. It's a little hard to describe: it feels a little colder, a little more clinical, than BO and/or BOII.

I'm a mediocre-to-decent BOII player. I prefer rushing with SMG's. Due to the way Ghosts handles acquiring perks and attachments, I got absolutely pwned playing that style as a noob yesterday.
The VAST majority of players camp. And I mean, camp HARD. And I suspect that's a symptom of what players start with, not knowing the new maps, and also the map sizes, which I'll get into now...

The majority of them are gigantic. That was bad enough in BOII playing maps like Turbine with 10 dudes per side, but Ghosts seemed to limit the play to 6 vs 6, and with those giant maps, there just didn't seem to be enough players to provide any kind of consistent flow/action to the game. I mean, after getting raped as I tried to rush across the map about 100 times, I tried to get all tactical, as I moved from cover to cover, making my way across the map. This would take at least a minute. Then I would finally get to where I expected the enemy to be, and I would get taken out with one shot by a sniper/camper using a sniper/assault rifle.

It was frustration, slowing evolving into zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

Then there's the new Perks/attachments system. The Pick10 system from BOII was easy to understand and quick to use- both as you set up a class at your leisure, and perhaps more importantly, as you tweek your classes while you wait for the next map to load.
The new Ghosts system, while certainly not difficult to understand, has more options, and due to the significantly increased options/data, classes seem to take more time to set up, and certainly took me far too much time to make it practicable to quickly tweek classes between games.

In conclusion, I suspect the superior players with rocket-fast internet connections will probably be okay with this game. Campers will bloody love it.
And as I (painfully) make my way through the levels, slowly acquiring enough Squad Points to buy enough Perks/attachments to make me at least competitive in the style that most fun for me, and as more map packs- hopefully featuring smaller maps- get released, I will likely come to like Ghosts well enough.

But I think it's safe to say I will never love it.

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Regular online matchmaking is always a campfest in COD. It's one of the huge reasons I only play Battlefield these days. Someone camping in a building? Cool story grab a tank and blow the wall down.


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Old 11-06-2013, 09:05 PM   #3982 (permalink)
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It took me a while to buy in but BF is by far the superior game.
As I was making dinner last night, I was thinking about why I was especially disappointed by Ghosts.
I suppose I was just hoping that it would be a natural evolution/improvement on BOII.

What I realised is that it's not, and I don't think it was meant to be.
It looks different, and it plays different.

I think I'll give it another go tonite, but it sounds like I should be picking up a copy of BF4 to see what's up.

I wonder how gameplay for Ghosts will compare between the '360 and the XBone...
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Old 11-07-2013, 12:13 PM   #3984 (permalink)
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As I was making dinner last night, I was thinking about why I was especially disappointed by Ghosts.
I suppose I was just hoping that it would be a natural evolution/improvement on BOII.

What I realised is that it's not, and I don't think it was meant to be.
It looks different, and it plays different.

I think I'll give it another go tonite, but it sounds like I should be picking up a copy of BF4 to see what's up.

I wonder how gameplay for Ghosts will compare between the '360 and the XBone...
If you have never played BF it may be a rough transition since it is less of a run and gun type of game. (If you play like you play COD, you will likely die a lot in the beginning) But there is nothing like playing on a huge map with huge teams, snipers perched, people marking the snipers for people to take out, jets and helicopters flying around blowing crap up, tanks taking out buildings along with a huge ground fight. It is nuts.

You have medic healing and reviving teammates, support classes throwing down ammo pickups, engineers repairing tanks and heli's, etc... It is just such a good game. That and the Frostbite engine is absolutely beautiful.
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I'd wait for DICE to patch the crashes and freezes before picking up BF4.
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I'd wait for DICE to patch the crashes and freezes before picking up BF4.
They rolled out server side updates last weekend that was supposed to fix a lot of the bugs and crashing.
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They rolled out server side updates last weekend that was supposed to fix a lot of the bugs and crashing.
Well, it still crashes for me... a lot.
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Old 11-07-2013, 12:18 PM   #3988 (permalink)
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Well, it still crashes for me... a lot.
That sucks. I haven't played since the weekend but all of my friends have been playing without issue on PC.
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I don't know, it might be a hardware issue for me. I have to play on low settings and I still can't play at 30 fps... which is weird because I can run BF3 on ultra on 1920x1080 and BF4 doesn't look THAT much better than BF4, especially on low settings.
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I don't know, it might be a hardware issue for me. I have to play on low settings and I still can't play at 30 fps... which is weird because I can run BF3 on ultra on 1920x1080 and BF4 doesn't look THAT much better than BF4, especially on low settings.
I dunno. It may still be happening to certain users. They still may have to roll out client side updates.

They said that the server side updates would not fix every single bug, so it is still possible that it isn't your hardware.


EDIT: In other news Uplay sucks and Ubisoft does nothing to fix it which means I am just sitting on a copy of Farcry 3 in my Steam library that cannot be played.
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