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**Damone** · 04-14-2008, 07:49 PM

The Penn comparison doesn't work, since Penn's much bigger than Pulver and that was at 155.

Pulver's always performed better at 145, and he'll be about Faber's size.

ManOfSteel808 · 04-14-2008, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Damone

Wait, you're using freakin' Sherdog rankings to prove your point? Seriously?

Rankings have nothing to do with it, it's about styles.

Pulver: standup fighter
Faber: ground fighter

Its proven that a majority of Jens' losses have come from ground fighters.

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Originally Posted by Damone

The Penn comparison doesn't work, since Penn's much bigger than Pulver and that was at 155.

Pulver's always performed better at 145, and he'll be about Faber's size.

SIZE!!! are u kidding me! size had nothing to do with it!
BJ Penn is a better fighter. period! Jens is a small person to begin with! That's why he's called "lil evil"! His size didn't stop him from fighting! He didn't use his size as an excuse...u shouldn't use it either!

True Jens performed better at 145, but this ain't back in the day! This is now! Everyone knows BJJ, everyone trains fulltime, And the new breed of fighters at 145 are amazing.

**Damone** · 04-14-2008, 08:24 PM

Actually, size plays a huge part, just like Jens' fights against Sakurai & Gomi. Both guys were much bigger than Jens.

It's also proven that the majority of Jens Pulver's losses have come from bigger guys.

attention · 04-14-2008, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ManOfSteel808

SIZE!!! are u kidding me! size had nothing to do with it!
BJ Penn is a better fighter. period! Jens is a small person to begin with! That's why he's called "lil evil"! His size didn't stop him from fighting! He didn't use his size as an excuse...u shouldn't use it either!

True Jens performed better at 145, but this ain't back in the day! This is now! Everyone knows BJJ, everyone trains fulltime, And the new breed of fighters at 145 are amazing.

I simply dont think it will be a cake walk for Faber... I think that 145 is good weight for Jens.

I dont think Faber has fought anyone like Jens, with the kind of experience he has.

Should Faber win, I will give him more props... but at this time, I just dont see it as being a landslide for either guy.

ManOfSteel808 · 04-14-2008, 08:38 PM

I said nothing about a landslide victory. All I said was Faber was my choice to win. He's got more tools for the job.

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Originally Posted by Damone

Actually, size plays a huge part, just like Jens' fights against Sakurai & Gomi. Both guys were much bigger than Jens.

It's also proven that the majority of Jens Pulver's losses have come from bigger guys.

...again i say to you:
size doesn't matter...it's all skill.

attention · 04-14-2008, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ManOfSteel808

I said nothing about a landslide victory. All I said was Faber was my choice to win. He's got more tools for the job.

fair enuf

I'll give Faber the edge for being younger and as a result he prolly will have better cardio and simply out work Jens.

I dont think that Jens will want to push a fast pace ... and fighting off the takedown might take its toll.

I give Faber the edge, but Ive got my fingers crossed hoping to see lil evil put Faber toes up. Dunno why... maybe hes just a little too cocky seeing that his competition has not been quite up to snuff ... but I cant deny the fact that Faber does indeed finishes fights.

He should really goto K1 and see how he fares vs Kid there... instead of calling him out to come here.

ManOfSteel808 · 04-14-2008, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by attention

fair enuf

I'll give Faber the edge for being younger and as a result he prolly will have better cardio and simply out work Jens.

I dont think that Jens will want to push a fast pace ... and fighting off the takedown might take its toll.

I give Faber the edge, but Ive got my fingers crossed hoping to see lil evil put Faber toes up. Dunno why... maybe hes just a little too cocky seeing that his competition has not been quite up to snuff ... but I cant deny the fact that Faber does indeed finishes fights.

He should really goto K1 and see how he fares vs Kid there... instead of calling him out to come here.

true, Kid is awesome, my pick as the top 145er. He's got some sick stand up. But hey that's wat u gotta do, get out and compete in another organization, get the experience. But, that would be an awesome fight to see.

jcal · 04-14-2008, 09:32 PM

I feel kinda bad for jens, I think Faber is in a league of his own right now.

**IcemanCometh** · 04-14-2008, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ManOfSteel808

Hey, i was using the rankings to show how the world rates fighters, I don't truly agree with the rankings, but, u gotta respect ranked fighters, i mean they wouldn't be up there if they weren't good.
Yeah, i know rankings have nothing to do with the outcome of a fight, but, like i said earlier, style-wise, this fight is giving the edge to Faber...same as the fight against BJ, Jens' style just doesn't match up well against Faber's. Faber's not a moron, he's not gonna keep it on the feet to prove his standup(like Andy Wang), Faber's gonna go for the quick takedown, and the finish...fight ends in 2 min. get in finish, thank sponsors, go home.

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Originally Posted by ManOfSteel808

I said nothing about a landslide victory. All I said was Faber was my choice to win. He's got more tools for the job.

Right not a landslide? What do you call a 2 minute fight? Also, if rankings don't matter then why use them?

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Originally Posted by ManOfSteel808

Pulver: standup fighter
Faber: ground fighter

Its proven that a majority of Jens' losses have come from ground fighters.

That is why Jens has started to work more and more on his ground game, did you see his fight with Cub? How fast was it, I blinked and missed it.

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Originally Posted by ManOfSteel808

...again i say to you:
size doesn't matter...it's all skill.

Exactly and at 145 Jens is the more skilled fighter.

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true, Kid is awesome, my pick as the top 145er. He's got some sick stand up. But hey that's wat u gotta do, get out and compete in another organization, get the experience. But, that would be an awesome fight to see.

Just in case you didn't know WEC and K-1 have a deal worked out to trade fighters so maybe Mr. Faber will get his dream match and smoked all in the same night.