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WEC World Extreme Cagefighting is an American mixed martial arts promotion. It is the sister promotion to the UFC, both owned and produced by ZUFFA, with a focus on lighter weight classes and talent building for the UFC. As with its older and much larger sibling, the WEC uses the same rules as the UFC, but it holds its fights in a smaller octagonal cage.

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Old 11-07-2008, 02:54 AM   #91 (permalink)
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First off i've been on the internet and this forum (Just not Registered)a long time. I know there were people that disliked him and thought her was overrated, same goes for many fighters. But now because of what happened many more people are trying to say that he was overhyped and whatever. We don't know how solid of a fighter Brown really is, that can't be determined from a punch. And Faber has faced solid opponents..Curran, Pulver. Even early on, defeating the then undefeated Charlie Valencia and Joe pearson who had come off 7 straight victories.
And when did I imply that silva and Faber were on the same level of striking? I was using an example that Silva throws these "stupid" elbws all the time, the difference is he wasnt caught with a punch during one of them.
Hate to burst your bubble but if you listen to Frank Mir do commentary for one of his fights it becomes abundently clear he is/was overhyped. Furthermore, I would say Brown being 20-4 with wins over guys like Curran, Yves Edwards, and now Faber and training at ATT he is no slouch. Please dude, guys like Vaencia and Pearson were beating up cans with 1-2, 1-1, 6-9 records before fighting Faber how am I to believe those wins are credible. Its the Rich Franklin syndrome just because someone has a bunch of wins on his record doesn't mean he is a great fighter, esp. if its against less than stellar fighters. As for the Anderson comment he isn't so stupid to throw it blind like that and actually lands it when he does it and he can take the punch if it comes.
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Old 11-07-2008, 03:23 AM   #92 (permalink)
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Hate to burst your bubble but if you listen to Frank Mir do commentary for one of his fights it becomes abundently clear he is/was overhyped. Furthermore, I would say Brown being 20-4 with wins over guys like Curran, Yves Edwards, and now Faber and training at ATT he is no slouch. Please dude, guys like Vaencia and Pearson were beating up cans with 1-2, 1-1, 6-9 records before fighting Faber how am I to believe those wins are credible. Its the Rich Franklin syndrome just because someone has a bunch of wins on his record doesn't mean he is a great fighter, esp. if its against less than stellar fighters. As for the Anderson comment he isn't so stupid to throw it blind like that and actually lands it when he does it and he can take the punch if it comes.
Actually Valencia was undefeated at 7-0 when he lost to Faber and Pearson was coming off a 7-win streak, look it up. And I just randomly picked a couple fighters as an example.
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Old 11-07-2008, 12:37 PM   #93 (permalink)
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That's a risk u take when throwing a shot like that. A-Silva does it all the time, he just never got punched at the same time. Like I said, it was only stupid because he missed and got knocked out, without the miss or the knockout it would have been Faber being Faber.
Anderson is a much better striker and doesn't throw it like that at all.

Faber loaded it up threw it from far away and gave Brown a easy counter chance.

It was a dumb elbow I'm not sure how you can question that.

And no one is saying Faber isn't good but he was considered the clear #1 FW and I don't think he was.
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Old 11-07-2008, 04:37 PM   #94 (permalink)
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Anderson is a much better striker and doesn't throw it like that at all.

Faber loaded it up threw it from far away and gave Brown a easy counter chance.

It was a dumb elbow I'm not sure how you can question that.

And no one is saying Faber isn't good but he was considered the clear #1 FW and I don't think he was.
What I'm trying to say is that because of him getting punched while throwing that elbow, it looked stupid. If it were not for the punch, that elbow would have landed, and it would have been fine. And also, he was not too far away, he almost caught him, had it not been for the punch from Brown.(see video)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpzgB9LyXeY

And also Brown's punch was not a counter to Faber's elbow, he had thrown the punch at the same time, but connected.
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Old 11-07-2008, 05:33 PM   #95 (permalink)
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He loaded it up from off the cage and there was way too much space between him and Brown.

Also the punch was clearly a counter Brown doesn't start throwing the punch till Faber was already coming foward.

And sure if it landed no one would've said anything but when you throw a dumb strike and you get caught that is when people notice it's dumb. Liddell threw that body shot a ton of times and it was a dumb strike those times to. But after Rampage knocked him out after it people started to realize how dumb of a strike it was.
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Old 11-07-2008, 05:51 PM   #96 (permalink)
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He loaded it up from off the cage and there was way too much space between him and Brown.
Yea, but at the point of contact, Faber's elbow was maybe half an inch from his face, it doesn't matter where it came from, it would have landed had it not been for the punch.

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And sure if it landed no one would've said anything but when you throw a dumb strike and you get caught that is when people notice it's dumb.
That's what I've been saying, it's because he was caught while throwing the elbow that they are saying it's dumb.
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Old 11-07-2008, 05:58 PM   #97 (permalink)
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Yea because he left himself open to get hit and got hit people are calling it dumb.
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