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I have been pondering this question for awile now.
Im about 6 foot even and my style of striking is base around TKD kicks and counters. My grappling base is greco-roman with a little folkstyle. All in all my main style is TKD. I been training on giving and taking leg kicks and since my legs are rather huge, is was it much of an issues in the first place. Many people say im fast for my size. Cardio is top notch and my power is up there (not Brock power, more of Cain's if not higher)
So i need some advice as to what weight i fight at?
HW or LHW?
 
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Difficult to say from the description you gave. And ultimately it may depend on your career goals. Are you a cut 245? Or do you have some beef to spare? Cutting 40 pounds isn't easy and doing it in a healthy manner would require you to lose a solid 20 of those pounds naturally, prior to "cutting weight". If you are a solid 245, cutting that weight might actually be very difficult and could actually be more detrimental to your fighting career as you would be losing a significant amount of muscle.

If you plan on making a "career" out of fighting cutting that weight is an option as long as you are able to do it in a healthy way. If you are doing it as more of a hobby then I am not sure cutting all that weight is worth it.

Also, how old are you?
 
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that choice is up to you, you know your body better than we do.

if u arent fat, it would be a very tough cut. you arent tall for a HW but neither are guys like Cain Velasquez or Fedor.

Speed is what makes guys great at HW. Almost every 240 pounder on earth that is in good shape, has good or great power, its just a matter of using it properly.
 
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1. Yea im making a career
2. Little meaty lol
3. 19
 
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You are certainly young enough where a change in your diet and exercise routines can have a significant impact on your body size if you are, as you said, "a little meaty". It might be worth it for your overall health as well to just give that a go and see where it takes you. Increase your cardio and weight training and see if you become heavier and more solid, or if you become more lean. Ultimately everyone's body reacts differently to these things. If you do change these things up and you lose a solid 15-20 pounds I think it is VERY reasonable for you to cut to 205.

But, as said above, your speed at HW may be a big advantage. I think the best thing for you to do is get in with a good gym, train and eat right and see where your body takes you before you make any decisions.
 
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6 foot even you need to drop IMO. You end up with Jeff Monson syndrome where tall strikers will use there length and jab all night long. IMO if your not at least 6'2" and are still young you shouldn't be at HW.
 
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I really don't think cutting down from 245 unless you have a significant amount of fat on you is healthy. There just isn't enough body fat or waterweight that can be cut from that weight without loosing muscle. In order to get down from that weight you would need to reshape your whole body like Overeem was doing for so many years!:thumbsdown:
 
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Well just because you have an average reach doesn't mean you should cut to unhealthy proportions. It just means you need to learn to use what you have. Cutting to the point your health is risked just isn't smart at all!:thumbsdown:
 
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Yeah, if you are 245 and have a little budge you could get down to cut then possibly make it to lightheavyweight. But you look at a guy like Mir and there is not way he could cut down to 205. Not without loosing a significant amount of muscle and endangering his health!:thumbsdown:
 
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Another I wanted to add is that the HW division has always been the lowest weight class in terms of compition over the past few years imo. Think about what other HWs beside Fedor (and Coture) have been considered P4P kings? Alot people can agree that in the history of MMA the deepest weight classes are MW and LHW. Wandy, Frank Shamrock, Ortiz, Shogun, Machida, Hendo, Coture and Liddel ruled LHW (MW in Japan). The only person to hold a dynasty at HW was Fedor. Everyone says the HW talent pool was always questionable but then again whos knows. But for nowI wanna go where the comp is the thickest.
 
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Well one thing I think is that the lightheavyweight division is what the average man weighs. However, if you are that heavy I don't think you may have a choice in the matter. Just because you want to fight in a competitive weight class doesn't mean its goign to happen unfortunately!:(
 
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6' is a bit short for a heavy and if you can drop ~20lbs without losing muscle I would go to LHW. If your almost all muscle then maybe stay at HW since at 19 you could possibly get a bit bigger (fill out a bit more maybe get a tiny bit taller). Of course I'm no expert on the subject, but thats what I would do.



The average American man is about 5'9.5" and 190lbs. However the average American man is also about 30lbs over weight IIRC. The worldwide averages are smaller (some countries are taller but I don't know if theres any that weigh more). I would say a lot of greats are in LHW because theres still a good amount of people that are that big and are athletic, where as a true HW that is atheletic is rare.
 
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