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UFC 65 will go down in history!!! The Snowman and Rush will both claim their belts on November 18th. I think the Hughes vs GSP fight will be close, but I see GSP picking Hughes' face for 3 rounds, then submitting Hughes RNC style in the 4th round. Monson will be too much for Sylvia. We all saw Sylvia get defeated rather easily on the ground. Monson being a wrestler and aggressive, will have no problem passing the Maine-iac's guard and giving Tim the face of a pug. 3rd round KO
 

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pt447 said:
maybe! i'd love to see those changes too, it's just that the belt going to monson isn't really a step up.
It is if you don't like Sylvia:laugh: imo he is very boring and mediocre, his title is soley due to his sheer desire to be champ and nothing to do with his skills
 

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no freakin way is monson beating Sylvia. I know Sylvia is the least respected fighter on this forum but cmon, Monson is a bum. Hes never beat ne one worthy of him getting a title shot, and Sylvia is gonna KO him in either the first or 2nd round
 

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It is if you don't like Sylvia:laugh: imo he is very boring and mediocre, his title is soley due to his sheer desire to be champ and nothing to do with his skills
his title has to do with the fact that he's fought nobody who's good. including arlovsky... we've all found out what a paper champ he was...
 

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Monson is far from a bum. He's one of the decorated submission grapplers in the UFC, up there with Dean Lister. If anyone could get Sylvia on the ground and actually control him down there with his power, it's Monson. He has a VERY good chance of winning, and I wouldn't be surprised if he pulled it off.
 

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hes not even close to as good as ricco was when Tim KO'd him..I am gonna start giving Tim a little more respect, all the guy does is win, hes the 5th best heavyweight in the world, and we talk about him like hes some bum off the street :dunno:
 

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hes not even close to as good as ricco was when Tim KO'd him..I am gonna start giving Tim a little more respect, all the guy does is win, hes the 5th best heavyweight in the world, and we talk about him like hes some bum off the street :dunno:
i never concider the ricco fight... since tim was, provenly, on roids... so anything that happened in that fight, cannot be taken seriously... no way around that. so, he beat ricco roided up, then beat Arlovsky who was protected as hell, barely fought, and when he did, fought nobody's... and who else has tim fought that's really good... like, actually a great fighter? nobody... tim's beaten nobody, and will get seriously manhandled by someone who can control his lanky, corn-fed body!
 

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i never concider the ricco fight... since tim was, provenly, on roids... so anything that happened in that fight, cannot be taken seriously... no way around that. so, he beat ricco roided up, then beat Arlovsky who was protected as hell, barely fought, and when he did, fought nobody's... and who else has tim fought that's really good... like, actually a great fighter? nobody... tim's beaten nobody, and will get seriously manhandled by someone who can control his lanky, corn-fed body!
:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh: I always seek out your threads on the forum now
 

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pt447 said:
his title has to do with the fact that he's fought nobody who's good. including arlovsky... we've all found out what a paper champ he was...
Tim may not have great competion. But who has Monson beat. You guys are acting like Tim has beat no one and Monson has been fighting great opponents. Tim has had better competion than Monson and will indeed beat The Snowman. I agree with jdunn, Tim does deserve much more respect than he gets on this forum. With the exception of his poopy pants, Im still up for making fun of him for that any time.
 

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Tim may not have great competion. But who has Monson beat. You guys are acting like Tim has beat no one and Monson has been fighting great opponents. Tim has had better competion than Monson and will indeed beat The Snowman. I agree with jdunn, Tim does deserve much more respect than he gets on this forum. With the exception of his poopy pants, Im still up for making fun of him for that any time.
lol tim will never hear the end of the shitted pants comments. It would be funny if tim himslef acctually read the thread were it talks about how he shitted his pants against assuereo silva.
 

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Storm442 said:
Tomorrow's fight (UFC-64) has the same potential of producing "2 new champs in the same night."

Anderson could win, and either way there will be a NEW Lightweight champ.

In fact, some (most?) would say Anderson has a better chance over Rich than the Tim/Jeff fight.

We could have 4 new champs by Nov. 18th.
(But I really don't think Hughes is going anywhere ... He's good for a couple more belt defends)
i thought i was gonna be the quick one to point that out haha u beat me to iot
 

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To be fair to Sylvia, the Nevadda State Athletic Commission tests all of the fighters after a title fight so he probably wasn't on roids when he won the belt from Rodriguez.


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Pogo the Clown said:
To be fair to Sylvia, the Nevadda State Athletic Commission tests all of the fighters after a title fight so he probably wasn't on roids when he won the belt from Rodriguez.


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Yea I only heard he took them for his fight against Gan McGee, but I find it hard to believe that was the only time he took them.

As for the Monson/Sylvia fight, I think Monson has a pretty decent chance. This will definately be a good test for Monson to see if he is all that he is cracked up to be. Abu Dabi HW Champion is pretty impressive.
 

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The Sylvia/Monson title fight is not getting much respect as a Main Event and I think that is fine. Both of the fighters deserve every fan's respect because they are fighters. When I hear people say that these two fighters are not getting the respect they deserve I think people mean they are not getting the popularity and hype they deserve. And they do not deserve popularity or hype at this point but they deserve a chance from the fans to earn it.
Part of it is out of their control, the quality of the HW class in UFC is awful (really going out on limb there, right?) and must improve if it wants to elbow its way into the spotlight with the LHW, MW, and WW divisions. The other thing that has to happen is that these two need to establish a personality for themselves. Brandon Vera is doing it by dominating opponents in short action packed (one sided so far) fights and being a likable guy in his interviews. I think the fans have been begging for Frank Mir to give them a reason to like him but he keeps showing up to the octagon pudgy and his comeback fights have been awful. If Sylvia (can't really see Monson caring) wants the hype and popularity it is up to him, not us. I already like him a little more after hearing about the pants shitting (the first fighter to visibly shit his pants in the octagon will never be forgotten and should immediately get a title shot at the next PPV), thats funny, and fans like funny. When all you have given the fans as the champion is one dissappointing title defense on a now infamous PPV and a pant shitting story(that the casual fan probably doesnt even know about) don't whine that you aren't on TV commercials running through the desert with a cold Xyience
and eating sushi with the Ulitmate Fighter guys.

All that being said, I wish the best for these two and hope they put on a fight that will start the ball rolling in the right direction for their careers and the HW class.
 

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We all were young, we all crapped our diapers. Tim Sylvia is reinforcing the fact that we all once made poopy in our pants. Tim's a man of the people. A common, caring man who goes with the flow.
 

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Damone said:
We all were young, we all crapped our diapers. Tim Sylvia is reinforcing the fact that we all once made poopy in our pants. Tim's a man of the people. A common, caring man who goes with the flow.
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Thats funny as hell man!!
 

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I hate to say it but no belts will change hands any time soon, you know why ? Thier is no talant in the ufc any more. how does Chuck hold the belt for so long (no compition) Chuck's last fight looked like a 6th grader beating up a 2nd grader is the school play ground.
 

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I hate to say it but no belts will change hands any time soon, you know why ? Thier is no talant in the ufc any more. how does Chuck hold the belt for so long (no compition) Chuck's last fight looked like a 6th grader beating up a 2nd grader is the school play ground.
Well ler me Ed u cate you sir. Are you not familar with a guy named George "Rush" St. Piere? He's about as talented as they come and is highly capable of taking Matt Hughes' belt.

Tim Sylvia isnt very talented himself and him and Jeff Monson will just be too guys with not alot of talent fighting so it could go either way.

Anderson Silva is a killer and I can see him knocking out Rich Franklin and taking the belt. I'll take Rich in this one though.
 

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Well ler me Ed u cate you sir. Are you not familar with a guy named George "Rush" St. Piere? He's about as talented as they come and is highly capable of taking Matt Hughes' belt.

Tim Sylvia isnt very talented himself and him and Jeff Monson will just be too guys with not alot of talent fighting so it could go either way.

Anderson Silva is a killer and I can see him knocking out Rich Franklin and taking the belt. I'll take Rich in this one though.
I don't know what to think of the Franklin Silva fight. I could see it going either way but damn that silva could catch him:dunno:
 
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