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Williams Got in the Cage to Feel Alive Again
7/29/2010 5:30 PM ET By Ben Fowlkes

The first thing John Williams wants you to know about his record-breaking MMA fight this past weekend is, it wasn't a gimmick. It wasn't a novelty act, some cheap ploy to sell tickets or attract headlines.

Well, maybe attracting the headlines was important, but for a good reason.

The 70-year-old from New Brunswick, Canada became the oldest person to ever compete in a professional MMA bout when he took on 49-year-old former pro wrestler Larry Brubaker on July 24 in Moncton. On paper it sounds like a carnival act, but the fight was serious business, Williams said, done to prove a serious point.

"I was trying to bring attention to the fact that when a person becomes a senior, society kind of pushes them out of the loop. The attitude toward them is that they're dumb, they can't do anything, physically they're just vegetables, and they're sort of shunned by society," Williams told MMA Fighting. "I wanted to find a way to show that life isn't over at 55 or 60 years old. You're not useless or obsolete. We live in a use-oriented society, and you get told that enough that even you start to believe you're useless."

As someone who prides himself on being a man of action -- if you want to hear about his many athletic exploits, just ask, but you might want to put on a pot of coffee first -- useless is the one thing Williams couldn't stand to be. Certainly, he's not the only one to ever feel this way. He's just the only one to combat that feeling by getting into a cage and fighting another human being.

But this wasn't simply an idea that popped into Williams' head after watching too much cable TV. He didn't do this on a whim. It was a quest five years in the making, and one that hit several roadblocks along the way.

First, there was the issue of licensing. Even back when Williams was a young man of 65, the local athletic commission wasn't exactly eager to let him fight. Even though he'd been competing in one form of martial arts or another since he was seven years old, and even though he'd kept up with the sport during seminars with Royce Gracie and Georges St. Pierre, all the commission officials saw when they looked at him was a liability.

Williams submitted to every medical test he could think of in order to prove his fitness and physical readiness. He took numerous blood tests, wore a heart monitor for 24 hours straight, did extensive tests on treadmills. His blood pressure was spot on. His resting heart rate would have made a distance runner jealous. Still, no one wanted to put a senior citizen into the cage, so Williams had to try another route.

"I went and got information on discrimination towards a person because of age, and I realized that if I say this is my job and I'm physically capable of doing the job, there was no way in the world they could stop me," he said. "This had nothing to do with risk factors. When you know what you're doing, MMA is safe. I could have done an amateur thing or an exhibition, but no, I wanted to do a real fight."

His discrimination approach worked. The commission realized they were fighting a losing battle, he said, and they relented. There was one obstacle out of the way. The next problem was finding someone willing to fight him.

"Nobody wanted to take me on because it's a no-win situation for them," Williams said. "If they win, people will say all they did was beat an old man, and if they lose it's embarrassing for them."



Just when his prospects for finding an opponent were looking hopeless, a candidate revealed himself the old-fashioned way.

"It was a strange thing. I went and bought a car – [Brubaker] owned a car lot – and we had a disagreement over one of the car payments and I've got a kind of short temper and so does he, so we almost got into a scuffle right there in the parking lot. My son had a car from him as well, and when my son saw him the guy said, 'Your dad thinks he's pretty tough [expletive]. I heard he wants to get someone to fight him in the cage, so why doesn't he fight me and we'll settle our differences there?'"

This, as it turned out, was all it took to get two fighters with a combined age of 119 years (another world record) in the cage together. Well, that and a few extra meals. Brubaker was considerably heavier, so Williams put on about twenty pounds to barely squeak into the heavyweight class. He's still a little upset about it, because he's sure it hurt his quickness and cardio -- a regrettable, but necessary consequence in this case.

The fight itself was a bit of a blur for Williams. He remembers opening up Brubaker's face in the first round with a series of backfists. He remembers Brubaker tagging him with a kick to the body when the two touched gloves to start the second (what Williams describes as "a desperation move"). He remembers transitioning from an ankle lock to a twisting knee lock, and back to an ankle lock for the submission finish in round two.

Mostly, however, what he remembers is how it made him feel to get in the cage and mix it up.

"The point of life is living it. And I tell you, I got in that cage and I felt alive. I felt human again. You get that thing over your head, people think you're 70 and you don't know [expletive]. They don't bother to get to know you. I like Eminem. I like rap music. ...Mentally, I feel the same as I did when I was 30. I like the same kind of cars and the same kinds of women. Nothing's changed for me, but there's this stereotype. You don't change, but they try and make you fit a mold and be something you don't want to be, which is an old person. Not me. I've been a fighter all my life."
You only live one time and then you're gone forever. If you're remembered by people for something, then it's like you're immortal.
-- John Williams


This isn't Williams' first world record. He set one in the 1970's for doing 13 straight hours of judo throws, he said, then another for breaking an eleven-inch chunk of ice with a single blow, which he did to bring awareness to treaty disputes that his Native American brethren were having with the government.

But at the same time, he can admit that setting this particular record was as much for himself as it was for the other seniors he was trying to inspire. Yes, he wanted to get people up and get them moving, but he had selfish reasons too. Time is running out now, and Williams knows it. It feels like it's going much too fast and there's nothing he can do to stop it.

"A lot of people just give up and don't do anything," he said. "You only live one time and then you're gone forever. If you're remembered by people for something, then it's like you're immortal. It's like you never really cease to exist. If people don't remember you, then you're just a little checkmark in a cemetery somewhere. This is kind of my shot at immortality, I guess. They'll always talk about the 70-year-old who got in there and fought."
Seriously. This is real. http://www.mmafighting.com/2010/07/29/70-year-old-mma-fighter-john-williams-got-in-the-cage-to-feel-al/

Here's a recap of the bout:

John Williams def. Larry Brubaker by Ankle Lock at 1:40 of the 2nd round

In a fight that was breaking two Guiness Book of World records, John Williams and Larry Brubaker gave us an entertaining match. Brubaker was able to get some solid body shots in while Williams, who is 70 years old, began to start working his leg kicks. This proved to be the winning gameplan, as Brubaker began to hobble after taking a few in the left leg. Early in the second, Williams was able to submit Brubaker sinking in an Ankle Lock. After the fight, both men were awarded a belt for breaking the records for Oldest Fighter to fight professionally and Oldest combined age between two fighters at 119 years.

Promoter Steve Williams gets emotional, publicly congratulating his father (John Williams) for his win.
http://mmehfighter.com/2010/07/27/elite-1-mma-wild-card-photos-fight-recaps-and-more/
 

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wow, i remember hearing about that fight coming up a while back.

as i read this entire article i kept wondering to myself whether this old man could take me in a fight. i dont think so, but the fact that i had to think about a 70 year old dude kicking my ass... the guys a badass.
 

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How is an in shape senior citizen beating up a fat car salesman considered MMA? It's freakshows like this guy and Jame Toney that make it impossible for MMA become a publicly accepted sport.
 

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Goodluck to you audit. Hopefully we'll be reading an article about you in the future!
Thanks man, I appreciate it when I have people supporting me. I've always been a brawler and have a wrestling background. But my wife thinks I'm crazy because she thinks at my age, I'll get killed or worse. She doesn't understand that Amateur MMA means that there's more rules such as throwing elbows and forearms to the face. All she see's is what I watch on UFC and the fight's I've been in at the hunting bar's each year.

Some people are VERY competitive and I'm one of them. I'm planning on fighting on the 21st of next month, torn rotator cuff or not. I'll figure out a way to protect my right shoulder and hopefully any right arm punches will land. I have a high pain tolerance but when I wake up in the middle of the night screaming in pain when I roll over on the right arm, she worries.

I have a goal and I'll reach it! :thumb02:
 

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Cool article, few people understand the difference between a person who has submitted to their age and a person who has fought to stay in shape, push themselves and continue to compete and place themselves in uncomfortable situations just to see what they’re made of.

I’ve always been impressed with how little the performance difference is between top amateur athletes in their 30s-40s and their 60s.
I was doing some bike racing a few years ago (12 mile individual time trials) and the top times of the 60-69 year old would have been in the middle of the pack for the 40-49 year old age group who were posting the FASTEST times (including some local pros).

At 46 I try and learn as much as I can about training and recovery, I started doing some nogi BJJ again, still doing Muay Thai, strength and conditioning and cycling.
Aside from not having the recovery I did in my 20s, and being a little more injury prone, I’m stronger, much smarter and hope to never stop pushing myself.
If it wasn’t for the career and responsibilities that come with it, I would train pretty much every day.
Nothing makes me feel alive like jumping into the deep end of the pool and seeing what I’m made of.
 

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Now that is awesome. I don't use that word much but that is ******* awesome. I have a new hero.
I think now these type of fights are ok, but still the reason why the credibility of the sport is sometimes under question.
As well as this, what f*cking commission if any/organisation let this guy fight at 70.
Congratulations to the guy for not needing a stairlift into the cage, and for getting the win, but surely we got to draw the line somewhere.
 

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I think now these type of fights are ok, but still the reason why the credibility of the sport is sometimes under question.
As well as this, what f*cking commission if any/organisation let this guy fight at 70.
Congratulations to the guy for not needing a stairlift into the cage, and for getting the win, but surely we got to draw the line somewhere.

I"m not sure how to answer here...there's so many... some things seemso obvious to me, it's like trying to explain the color blue.

First, if they had settled their little dispute with a game of 1 on 1 bball or tennis, would that hurt the credibility of those sports?

more importantly....so much more important

I don't know how old you are punch but if you're stong enough and unlucky enough then you will live to see a day when you can't do the things you want to do. One day you won't be able to do the things you need to do. One day someone who loves you will take your car keys away and say "I'll do your grocery shopping punch". From then on it will be your family and healthcare people who keep you alive. If you're lucky you'll have some memories of when you used to LIVE. For some it might come in their 70's others make it to their 90's but, if you don't die, that day comes.

That MAN can see it coming and he will not go quietly. That MAN will probably die mountain climbing or skydiving. And when he does my father will see it on the news, watching tv from his nursing home and won't even understand what they're talking about.

Far better is it to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure... than to rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy nor suffer much, because they live in a gray twilight that knows not victory nor defeat.
Theodore Roosevelt
The only age limit for living is the one we make for ourselves.

Be in awe of that MAN. If you aren't now, you will be one day.
 
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