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Actually atheism is considered a religion in and of itself because there an atheist has faith that something came from literal nothing and that living matter came from non-living matter. Also yes there is no such thing as cookie cutter medical treatments.
 

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Actually atheism is considered a religion in and of itself because there an atheist has faith that something came from literal nothing and that living matter came from non-living matter. Also yes there is no such thing as cookie cutter medical treatments.
I'll educate you on what atheist means real quick, you can still Google it and I'd advise you to do so, but here's the definition of atheism - a lack of, or rejection, of any belief in gods/deities (usually because of a lack of sufficient evidence).

That's it. That's literally it. It doesn't mean you believe that something came from nothing, it doesn't mean that you believe anything about matter, it doesn't mean you believe in the big bang, it doesn't mean you believe in science, it doesn't mean ANYTHING AT ALL other than - you do not believe that a god/deity exists because there's a lack of evidence that one does.

An atheist can believe that we are all inside a giant bull testicle and the universe is a cell inside of said bull testicle. An atheist can believe that we are all storybook characters inside of a TV series. An atheist can believe that we are all in a simulation. An atheist can love science, or hate science, can accept science or reject science. All an atheist is, is they do not believe in a god/deity because there's not enough evidence that one exists. They make no other claims. Anything beyond that is their own personal opinion and has nothing to do with being an atheist.

Not believing in Bigfoot isn't a religion. Not believing in aliens isn't a religion. Not believing in the Loch Ness Monster isn't a religion. Not believing in unicorns or fairies isn't a religion. Guess what? Not believing in a god/deity isn't a religion. Lacking belief in something because there's no evidence for the existence or purpose of said belief has nothing to do with the word religion. If you said you have a talking gold dragon that poops gold bars and diamonds living in your basement, I wouldn't believe you. My rejection of your claim that you have such a talking gold dragon that poops gold bars and diamonds does not mean I am in a religion that has faith that you do not have a talking gold dragon that poops gold bars and diamonds. It means I don't believe that you have such a creature living in your basement. It's literally as simple as that - I do not believe you. It has nothing to do with the word religion in any way shape or form.

Here's my homework for you Kanto - Google the word religion, and google the word atheism. Educate yourself on the words before you actually use them, it will benefit you in the long run.
 

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Its not so much an issue of brainwashing. The real concern is illiteracy. There are many in the world who cannot think for themselves. Who blindly believe everything they see on TV.

People made fun of Floyd Mayweather not being able to read. The sad truth is most are far more illiterate on topics of economics, business, finance, taxes, politics than someone who can't read.

Those types wouldn't know what they should think, or how they should feel. If the mainstream media wasn't beating them over the head with headline narratives that might or might not be true.

Listening to things people say. Sometimes you realize they're repeating word for word the views they got from the media. That type of blind faith is far more dangerous than religion or belief in a God. By far.
I think what people lack is the ability to critically think for themselves. Its easier just to absorb information for a source you are familiar with and trust than to think about every bit of information you are fed. The issue with people echoing narratives they read in the papers is that they usually associate with the same type of people, who consume the same type of media, they discuss issues amongst themselves and you have an echo chamber where people just reinforce narratives provided by the media. This is an incredibly powerful tool to push agendas, propaganda and false information.

A classic example of this would be people in my town who read newspapers like the Sun and the Daily Mail, they will tell you that foreigners are taking and jobs and draining the welfare system because thats what they are told. Now the amount of foreigners in my region is very low, its like 5% but easily more than half of that are actually British, just not white, and large portion of that 5% would be EU workers. Now I can ask someone who makes the claim that foreigners are talking the jobs and claiming welfare the following questions -

  • Are they taking jobs or are they taking welfare, it can't be both
  • Who do you know who has had their job taken by a foreign worker
  • Who do you know that has not been able to get a job because it has been given to a foreigner?
  • If foreigners are taking all the jobs then where are they, I literally have seen hundreds, if not thousands of people today and I've only seen few non-English
They cannot answer any of these questions, but they'll still tell you "Foreigners are taking all the jobs", they are programmed to say it. They literally cannot think for themselves.

And now with the internet, you don't even have to socialise to get an echo chamber, you can just go online and find a community who share the same thoughts, watch Youtube videos and listen to podcasts.
 

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It sounds like you live in a surprisingly conservative part of the UK. I can't attest to what is going on in the UK but in America the concern is actually that with all the illegals jumping the border they are both draining the welfare state and taking many of the basic labor jobs.
 

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Well, it looks like Biden will be the nominee not Bernie. In that case, I'm going Trump again. Biden is just Obama all over again, except Biden is also senile and looks to have dementia. Bernie would have been an interesting way to go, to see how things turned out. But between Trump and Biden Trump is by far the better candidate. Obama was a nightmare and Biden is just another Obama, we know how that path goes.
 

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Actually I think Biden is worse then Obama because Obama is at least charismatic, a good speaker and at least has his mental capabilities. As you pointed out MC, Biden is genuinely senile and clearly has dementia. If there was anytime for him to run it should've been in 2016 but as we all know dementia can settle in quickly and Biden is going downhill.
 

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Trump, in the last few weeks have:

1. Created, proposed, and will be enacting a universal based income for all (vast, vast majority if not all) adults in America (free money for everyone for doing nothing). We get our first check April 6th apparently, by the way.

2. All medical exams and tests are free if it's in regards to corona (free medical treatment).

3. Ordered the suspension of all evictions and home loan foreclosures, basically free housing for everybody in its own way.

4. Invoked the Defensive Protection Act, which FORCES private companies/firms to produce needed supplies for citizens.

Trump is bringing progressive ideas and socialist ideas to America when America needs it the most. America is in trouble, people need help, people are struggling, where do we turn to? The government. You know what the republican run government does in response? Enact socialism. Free money for all, free housing for many, medical tests free of charge, oh and all those private companies? Yeah, get your ass to work cause big bad daddy said so.

You can't make this shit up.
 

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Trump, in the last few weeks have:

1. Created, proposed, and will be enacting a universal based income for all (vast, vast majority if not all) adults in America (free money for everyone for doing nothing). We get our first check April 6th apparently, by the way.

2. All medical exams and tests are free if it's in regards to corona (free medical treatment).

3. Ordered the suspension of all evictions and home loan foreclosures, basically free housing for everybody in its own way.

4. Invoked the Defensive Protection Act, which FORCES private companies/firms to produce needed supplies for citizens.

Trump is bringing progressive ideas and socialist ideas to America when America needs it the most. America is in trouble, people need help, people are struggling, where do we turn to? The government. You know what the republican run government does in response? Enact socialism. Free money for all, free housing for many, medical tests free of charge, oh and all those private companies? Yeah, get your ass to work cause big bad daddy said so.

You can't make this shit up.
All sounds good, but I can't tell by your post if you're happy about it or not? Sorry not being sarcastic, I don't understand American politics but I assume this is everything Republicans hate?

In other news, I'm self isolating because the wife and my 18 month old had a cough. Anyone with a cough or fever must self-isolate for 7 days, anyone sharing a house with said people must isolate for 14 days. To be clear, it is just a mild cough they had and they are fine now, but I miss 2 weeks wages... which ******* sucks given the current climate. Only 11 more days to go. My wife needs to work from home going forward as she works for a University, so I've just had to pay 700 quid for a new laptop. Jesus, give me some of the socialism you guys are getting :D
 

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All sounds good, but I can't tell by your post if you're happy about it or not? Sorry not being sarcastic, I don't understand American politics but I assume this is everything Republicans hate?

In other news, I'm self isolating because the wife and my 18 month old had a cough. Anyone with a cough or fever must self-isolate for 7 days, anyone sharing a house with said people must isolate for 14 days. To be clear, it is just a mild cough they had and they are fine now, but I miss 2 weeks wages... which *** sucks given the current climate. Only 11 more days to go. My wife needs to work from home going forward as she works for a University, so I've just had to pay 700 quid for a new laptop. Jesus, give me some of the socialism you guys are getting :D
It's a republican white house that's bringing in all these socialist and progressive things, that's what is amusing. Trump, a guy who was not a month ago cracking down on social security and foodstamps/welfare, is now literally giving everyone in America free money, free medical testing, forcing private companies against their will to produce mass product for citizens and all evictions/home loan foreclosures are suspended indefinitely which is essentially free housing for millions and millions of Americans. And all I'm hearing from the right is people saying "it's about damn time the government got their heads out of their asses and helped us". You know, the party of "every man for himself, earn your own way, we want a tiny government and want no government aid", that group.

The moment it gets hot, they want big bad daddy government to come in and help. Free money, free testing, free housing, force those corporations to produce more supplies for us. All the things they fight against on a daily basis they turn around and jack off to the moment they need some help.

As for if I like it or not, I'm all for it. It's what they should be doing. But then, I'm a guy who is pretty balanced these days and other than gun ownership I don't really lean one way or the other.
 

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This all is a temporary solution because most work is basically on hold right now and moving is pretty inconvenient right now while trying to quell a pandemic. I still believe that things are still a little out of control and overblown but right now this is how things are happening and its' temporary.
 

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It's a republican white house that's bringing in all these socialist and progressive things, that's what is amusing. Trump, a guy who was not a month ago cracking down on social security and foodstamps/welfare, is now literally giving everyone in America free money, free medical testing, forcing private companies against their will to produce mass product for citizens and all evictions/home loan foreclosures are suspended indefinitely which is essentially free housing for millions and millions of Americans. And all I'm hearing from the right is people saying "it's about damn time the government got their heads out of their asses and helped us". You know, the party of "every man for himself, earn your own way, we want a tiny government and want no government aid", that group.

The moment it gets hot, they want big bad daddy government to come in and help. Free money, free testing, free housing, force those corporations to produce more supplies for us. All the things they fight against on a daily basis they turn around and jack off to the moment they need some help.

As for if I like it or not, I'm all for it. It's what they should be doing. But then, I'm a guy who is pretty balanced these days and other than gun ownership I don't really lean one way or the other.
Its going to be long hard road back from this. Maybe when its over people will be more compassionate to those that fell on hard times and needed help. Its interesting to see the complete shift in policy in America because of this, but its the right thing to do, Americans will die by the millions, if points 2,3 and 4 on your list are not implemented. Point 1 is an economy protector, keep people spending to keep jobs and businesses afloat, it will also help boost moral.

I think the world is going to be a very different place at the end of all this.
 

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Different place in what way? And also how will the Olympics be affected because USA Swimming is campaigning for a postponing the Olympics another year which I have been hearing that being bounced around. Hard to know how thing will go down.
 

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Trump, in the last few weeks have:

1. Created, proposed, and will be enacting a universal based income for all (vast, vast majority if not all) adults in America (free money for everyone for doing nothing). We get our first check April 6th apparently, by the way.


UBI is essentially social security 2.0.

Trump's plan is free money, without tax hikes.

It is a bit different.
 
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