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You know it's been in my mind after Rich won the title from Evan Tanner,
you know after tanner became a champion, i Think UFC did not want him to remain champion you know why ? cause he is expensive fighter, and each fight cost a lot for ufc in compare with rich franklin at that time.
and i donno why rich drop down to middleweight and exactly after it he got a title shot ? his last fight was ken shamrock ? true ??? it was not at middle weight. so how the **** they give him title shot in his first middle weight ? why he dropdown to middleweight ?? the only reason my mind is tanner lost one fight to franklin and rich is a very tough fighter too, and they tought he can get that title from evan cause evan knows that he lost a fight to rich and it effects his mind too....and as i know rich has a eight fight contract with low price that he respected it till now,
but after rich became champion : please look at his fights ...
Nathan Quarry : the winner of TUF, not a class A fighter.
David Loiseau : he is very high class fighter but look at his fight with tanner in UFN 2 , if not for his nasty elbows , you can guess what happen to that fight...he had nothing in that fight..too many take downs by tanner...and also look at his current fight with swick...
in two first rounds he had nothing to show..if u take his elbows ability from him he will kiss goodbye fighting forever...
Anderson Silva : one fight in UFC , he is a good fighter but who he won in his last fighter : Chris Leben : i dont tell u about him cause you know him
i dont say Silva is not a good fighter but t they try to show that he is very very good fighter(very better than the fighter he is..)..and i know he has nothing to show against rich franklin..and ufc will enjoy other fight with rich as champion with low salary..

finally i wanted to tell this :
can we compare rich franklin fights after he became champion with tanner fight after he became champion ??
why they did not bring chuck liddle in middleweight and put him against rich ??
he can easily become middleweight too...(just an example...)
how the **** you fight in lightheavyweight and suddenly they give you title shot in middle weight ??
I am rich franklin FAN too as a fighter, but there is many things that i wanted to share...
sorry for my bad english...but plz drop some idea here...
 

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ANderson SIlva was not on TUF
Sorry, my mistake.. but dont change my idea, after one fight you got title shot ? ok. no problem they did it to david terrell but he beat matt lindland not chris leben...
 

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Here is my 2 cent:

I understand why you are confused at why Dana has given Anderson Silva a shot at the title. Im not completely sure, but these would be a few reasons why.

Anderson Silva has fought all around the world, he's known for his demigod like striking. His looks is deceiving since he looks like a freakin' twig, but from what ive seen..his fists are logs. Silva has had successful KO victories over top fighters all around the world. Two out of his four losses were just plain bad luck.
-His fight with Ryo Chonan was some real bad luck.He was winning the fight until that sneaky bastard jumped into a scissors takedown to heel hook(which by the way looked disgusting at how Ryo twisted Silva's ankle).
-His most recent loss was due to DQ in ROTR. Silva wasn't allowed to do an up kick to the face while on his back, and what we got was....an up kick to the face of his opponent. My guess is that he just wasn't familiar with the rules. Or Silva is a ****..but I doubt it.

I know Leben is considered a B-class fighter, and people are upset just because Silva beat Leben, he gets a title shot. But you need to think a bit further into it. Chris was destroying pretty much every fighter that was given to him, exciting or not he beat them all.
Silva's fight with Leben was just plain brutal. I seriously think Silva was only giving 60% in that fight. He rocked Leben early, flurried his ass, then knee'd him to his dreams without even getting touched.

And remember, Dana is desprate for a Contender. Seeing how Dana marched Nate to his doom only after three fights, im sure he is being more cautious with Swick. Although Swick won the fight with Loiseau, I still don't it wasn't a big test for him. Maybe Loiseau was still shell shocked from the Franklin fight and lost his aggression.
They should have done Swick vs Silva first.
 

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yah they are rushing him into a title i think he needs to have at least 2 back to back wins with decent people before he gets the shot.

but he did beat chris bad didnt even look like he tryed

they might just be trying to make money like i think someone said... most of us only seen him once and it was a very good win very quick to a fighter that most people heard of. and because it was free alot of people saw it and i dunno kinda like a lure...people might wanna see if he really is as good as he was against chris. more exposure than if he started in paper veiw.

just my thoughts if you can under stand im a bad writer
 

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as a fan of evan tanner and then rich franklin, my first thing in my mind is why things are different when tanner became champion and when rich is champ and why he dropdown to lower weight class and got title shot. he beat shamrock, and even tanner in ufc 42. i think as a champion rich franklin did not pass a good fighter yet. the crow and Nathan Quarry were not big deal.

rich knocked down by both tanner and the crow, it means he has some weakness too.....

but i still say Silva is not a big deal. they make a scarecrow of him...
 

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i just watched that highlight boy got some crazy hands and legs they are pritty fast and accurate and the way he moves lookes like he might have some good cardio i dunno

theres also one were he beat horn. his hands looked awsome and again with the cardio he even looked like he had a little striking from the bottom i dunno another highlight

from the highlights and i know they aint all that great for information cause usaly favor one person his hands look torpedoes. smooth and powerful.

we might be playing him down a little just a thought dunno.
 

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anderson silva is a monster..and i think dana is making a mistake thinking he's just feeding people to rich..anderson could very easily upset...im not saying he will def win but it is a very strong possibility..silva has trained with two of the best camps on the world..he was with chute boxe and brazilian top team..he has alot of skill..he is a great addition to the mw div. i just hope if he loses we get to see him fight some other guys..and dana doesnt just sweep him under the rug
 

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Well, his first fight was Tanner, second fight was Dewees, third fight was Rivera, faught Shamrock as a LHW, then Tanner again....what I wanna know is which of these fights were @ middleweight and which (other than Shamrock) were at light heavyweight? I can't remember it's been forever since I watched any of these fights.
 

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first i wanna say that there is no way Chuck is making middleweight, hes said it himself, he would have to cut off a leg to get down to middleweight..But back on the topic, Rich is one of my favorite fighters also, and Im real nervous about this fight. I have concerns about Rich's chin being tested early and often, Silva has very good striking skills and hes also a bjj black belt. So he is the total package. Im not sure if Rich plans on striking or taking Silva down, but if Im Rich Im taking Silva to the mat quick, I want no part of his striking!!
 

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jdun11 said:
first i wanna say that there is no way Chuck is making middleweight, hes said it himself, he would have to cut off a leg to get down to middleweight..But back on the topic, Rich is one of my favorite fighters also, and Im real nervous about this fight. I have concerns about Rich's chin being tested early and often, Silva has very good striking skills and hes also a bjj black belt. So he is the total package. Im not sure if Rich plans on striking or taking Silva down, but if Im Rich Im taking Silva to the mat quick, I want no part of his striking!!
That's that TKD BABY! YEA!
 

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WouldLuv2FightU said:
Well, his first fight was Tanner, second fight was Dewees, third fight was Rivera, faught Shamrock as a LHW, then Tanner again....what I wanna know is which of these fights were @ middleweight and which (other than Shamrock) were at light heavyweight? I can't remember it's been forever since I watched any of these fights.
1st fight with tanner was at LHW, second fight with Dewees wus LHW, then he moved down to middleweight to fight Rivera, then back up to LHW to fight Shamrock, then both him and Tanner moved down to middleweight and fought.
 

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1st fight with tanner was at LHW, second fight with Dewees wus LHW, then he moved down to middle to fight Rivera, then back up to LHW to fight Shamrock, then both him and Tanner moved down to middleweight and fought...im pretty sure thats how it went, idk could be wrong dude
Sounds right to me :thumbsup:
 

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ANderson SIlva was not on TUF. THe UFC marketing guys can only show highlights from the Leben beating because thats anderson's only fight in the UFC. If you go on YOuTube you can see a highlight vid of his fights over in Pride, Which make him look damn good. That guy can fight. It's ovbious loisou was never a real contender my evidence being the Mike swick fight, it sucked. So maybe this gut SIlva can beat him. I kind of hope he does. If not they should bring in that guy that has beat both FRanklin and BOnnar, to fight franklin. I can't seem to remember his name...............
His name is Lyoto Ryoto Machida and he is undefeated. He destroyed Bonnar, Franklin, beat BJ penn by decision and also beat K-1 great Michael Mcdonald. Ufc will never bring him or quinton jackson in from WFA because they have both beat Dana Whites poster boys Rich and Chuck and he doesnt want to see them lose to them again. Chuck might take Quinton now but I cant see Franklin beating Machida, that guy is good check out his fights on Google Video everyone.
 

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Franklin can't really handle aggressive strikers coming at him. Machida threw Rich off his gameplan, because he(Lyoto) was constantly pressing the action. If Silva comes at him like Machida did, then Ace will lose his title.

Rich likes to be the bully, and once the roles are switched, then he doesn't know how to react.
 

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I think Rich is the dominant MW in mma right now but Anderson has a great chance to win and this is why. Rich has a suspect chin but he has great recovery time. He will get caught by anderson the question is going to be will anderson be able to finish him before he recovers. In just about all of Rich's fights he gets rocked at least once. His complete game is what allows him to weather that storm and get back on track. Part of his game plan is to weather the storm when it comes and win in dominating fashion. I think he has improved his all around game we just havn't seen it because for the most part he has fought primarily one dimensional fighters. Silva anderson is also primarily a one dimensional fighter. His stand-up is second to none but he hasn't been on the ground a lot. I see Rich getting caught, silva getting over anxious and Rich catching him in a sub sometime in the third round.
 

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First off Quarry wasnt Tuf winner, he left due to injury. While A Silvas UFC resume is small his MMA resume is not. He is by far the biggest threat to Richs title out of anyone in the MW division. So Im totally for him getting a shot. Dont give me this crap about the UFC screwing Tanner. It doesnt matter if Rich didnt earn his shot at MW or not he kicked the champs ass and thats what matters.
 
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