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UFC middleweight champion, Anderson Silva has indicated he’d consider a move down to 170 pounds in order to get Georges St. Pierre inside the octagon and answer the question of who is the better man.

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ABU DHABI, United Arab Emirates – Anderson Silva is so good, and has been so dominant as the Ultimate Fighting Championship’s middleweight title-holder, that it’s big news when he doesn’t obliterate an opponent.

Silva already holds the UFC record for consecutive wins (10) and, on Saturday, will break a tie with Matt Hughes and Tito Ortiz if he defeats Demian Maia in the main event of UFC 112 at Ferrari World and reels off the sixth consecutive successful defense of his middleweight belt.
But how does UFC welterweight champion Anderson Silva grab you? Or UFC light heavyweight champion Anderson Silva? Or, better yet, UFC heavyweight champion Anderson Silva?

Well, it’s far from a guarantee that he’ll ever fight for even one of those other belts, but it’s not because the thought hasn’t crossed the soon-to-be 35-year-old’s mind. He’s not the type to call out an opponent and challenge a champion in another division, but he said after a news conference Wednesday that he is seriously considering a drop to 170 pounds for two fights.

One he’d take to see if he could successfully make the welterweight limit, and a second would potentially be for a Superfight with champion Georges St. Pierre.

St. Pierre has put a stranglehold on the welterweight division similar to the one that Silva has on the middleweights. So, naturally, talk of a St. Pierre-Silva fight has arisen. UFC president Dana White has put a damper on the talk recently, however, because he’s begun to believe that Silva is too big for St. Pierre.

If Silva were to drop to 170 to meet St. Pierre, it would create perhaps the biggest fight in UFC history, matching the top two pound-for-pound fighters in the world. Silva said it’s possible, though he was careful not to demand a title bout or call out St. Pierre.

“I’d like to test myself and I always love to take on new challenges,” Silva said of his thoughts about a drop to 170 pounds from the middleweight limit of 185. “It’s not that I want to go fight Georges St. Pierre for his title. There’s no doubt in my mind that he’s the reigning champion, the absolute champion, in that weight category. But I just want to test myself and see how I’d do at that weight.”

Silva, who recently signed a new eight-fight contract with the UFC, said he hasn’t made 170 pounds in about five years. He’s not looking to campaign in the division, however, and two fights at the weight wouldn’t change that, even if he were successful.


Silva has the otherworldly kind of talent, though, to make an even bigger splash. He’s already knocked out Forrest Griffin, a former light heavyweight champion and if close friend and training partner Lyoto Machida weren’t holding the UFC’s 205-pound belt, he might be eyeing a run at it too.

He also acknowledged an interest in fighting at heavyweight. He’s got the kind of frame to add on the weight and could compete around 225 pounds.

Whether that would be enough to allow him to deal with the behemoths at the top of the division – such as champion Brock Lesnar and No. 1 contender Shane Carwin – is another matter entirely. But one of the things that makes Silva so great is that he thinks big.

“It would be disrespectful for me to say I want to fight Brock Lesnar, who is the heavyweight champion right now,” Silva said. “I need to test myself at heavyweight first before I talk about who I want to fight. But I definitely have interest in testing myself as a heavyweight.”

It would be an enormous boost for the sport if he could make a run at four UFC belts, much like golf benefited in 2000 from Tiger Woods’ run at the grand slam.

There are only two men in UFC history who have held championships in multiple divisions. B.J. Penn has been champion at welterweight and currently holds the lightweight belt. Randy Couture has had multiple stints as both the heavyweight and light heavyweight champion.

Four is unheard of, though, and the race to accomplish it would be an enormous story.

“I understand how big that would be,” Silva said of a run at all four belts. “I already have [three] titles [in the UFC, Shooto and Cage Rage] and it would be a great thing to try to accomplish. Only time will tell what will happen. I would like to try to go to do that, but I’ve had success by focusing on what I have to do and nothing else. I just take one step at a time.”

Hughes praised Silva’s mental toughness and said it’s been a key reason why he’s been able to hang on to the belt so long. Penn shook his head at Silva’s longevity at the top. Silva has held the belt since Oct. 14, 2006, and recently broke Ortiz’s record for most days as the champion. Ortiz held the UFC’s light heavyweight belt from April 14, 2000, until Sept. 24, 2003, when he lost it to Couture.

“It’s amazing,” Penn said of Silva’s lengthy run at the top of the middleweight heap. “To do that for that long and to be at the top for that period of time, it’s amazing.”

It’s nothing, however, compared to what may come. If Silva keeps the belt by getting past Maia on Saturday, he could be in store for some magnificent adventures.

If he ever gets in position for a heavyweight title fight with Lesnar, the UFC might need to bring in a couple of armored trucks to haul in the money he’d make.

Silva, though, isn’t motivated by money as much as he is by pushing himself and testing the limits of his skills. It’s why he’d think about shedding the pounds to fight St. Pierre or to even consider taking on the gargantuan Lesnar.

Silva is already a larger-than-life character, but the best may be yet to come. His idol is the comic-book character Spider-Man, he said, noting: “Ever since I’ve been a kid, I’ve wanted to be a superhero. That would be kind of cool.”

If he beats St. Pierre and he beats Lesnar, it’s pretty much guaranteed he’ll never have to dream of becoming a superhero again. Do that and he’ll be one in real life.
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So, I guess the question now is can GSP defeat Anderson Silva since he'll be missing an arm to make weight?
 
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I'd be absolutely shocked to see Siva at 170. I'm not sure he'd be healthy at that weight. We're talking about a guy that looks like a stick at MW.
 

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Omg if he does something like this he is forever my idol. He's fought at this weight before so I could see him making it on the scale but he would be all skin and bones.

Imagine holding 3 belts in 3 different weight classes. Whoops fighters at Light Heavyweight then drops to welterweight to whoop the champ (extremely hard to picture).

Just by the mere suggestion of moving down a weight class, he has made this seem possible. Anderson Silva via legacy destroying 1st round KO lol. If he has to chase GSP into his own weight class to fight him, he will. Epic win
 

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Wow ... I don't know in this day and age whether Silva can make the 170 limit, but I'm glad he's willing to make this superfight happen.
 

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So, I guess the question now is can GSP defeat Anderson Silva since he'll be missing an arm to make weight?
silva has made 165 before, but that was like 12 years ago. I still think he could make 170 with proper diet and training.
 

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I never even considered Silva moving down to fight GSP, but if Anthony Johnson can make 170 then Silva probably can too.
WOW WOW WOW. If he can make 170 then this fight MUST HAPPEN IMMEDIATELY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Seriously, I dont care if its for the title or not. They can make it a catchweight fight if they have to. 175, 178, 180 whatever. I want to see this asap. The sooner the better because of rematch possibilities. You never know, we could get an epic 3 fight series between these two.
 

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That would be an interesting move. Can't see Silva come down to a healthy 170, but a catch at 180 would be doable I think. Either way, this is a fight I want to see!
My prediction is GSP slams Silva at 170.

I don't think Dana will allow this at 170
 

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ITT: lots of people who don't know Silva used to fight at 170 and even lighter.
 

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................................i think i just soiled myself

this would be epic. the only thing that can make this more epic is if it takes place in madison square garden!

if this fight happens i takes silva all day! all he would need to do is practice his tdd and bjj and it would be the clear sign of who is p4p king! i can already hear almeida squatting a duce involuntarily

@hex-i remember that but that was a fairly long time ago, might be harder now that hes built more muscle but he always had a skinny build so he can definitely drop back down.
 

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Why in the world should Anderson have to move down for GSP? As the Briscoe Brothers would say to GSP "Man Up". seriously, Anderson is bigger i dont see why he should move down to 2 classes below where he can comfortably fight.
 

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Personally i think if he went down to 170 GSP would whoop on him. NO WAY that Anderson can stop GSP's takedowns and i really dont see him getting back up or submitting him. His only chance IMHO is to catch GSP the 20 seconds each round that the fight might be standing. If anyone can catch him its the Spider though.
 

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Wow i'm glad that Silva through this out there. It got me kind of amped up lol. I don't know if Silva could make 170 and be 100% but just him mentioning it will have the possibility of this fight floating around again. I do want to see what would happen if they met. I would have respect for both of them no matter who won, but I just think GSP's wrestling and gameplanning would be enough to ATLEAST get the decision against Anderson.
 

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Interesting stuff! Shows how far Silva is willing to go to show he is #1 P4P king. Im sure he would happily got to HW to fight Fedor if he could as well. I think he is just trying to get GSP to bite and maybe do the fight at a catch weight (180) if GSP dose not want to move up yet. Would be an amazing fight!
 

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Why should Silva be the one jumping all these weight classes when GSP can't even move up one?
he'd be only moving down one weight class from the class he holds a belt in... and it's a division he has fought in many times before so it's not all that crazy.
 

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he'd be only moving down one weight class from the class he holds a belt in... and it's a division he has fought in many times before so it's not all that crazy.
I may have phrased it weird. I meant why should Anderson consistently move out of his comfort zone by moving between MW, LHW, possibly HW and now WW when GSP can't even move up to MW?
 
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