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Heres a fight they might want to set up in the future IMO

Bisping (And I know Im not the only one who agrees with this) has shown the most impressive debut I've seen... We ALL know he'll walk through his next fight they have him set for. Griffen is due for a fight now soon too...

Who do you think would win? Skill wise you know we have to go with Bisping, but DAMN Griffen doesnt know the word quit.

PLUS, whoever wins THAT fight is probably close to a title shot
 

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Heres a fight they might want to set up in the future IMO

Bisping (And I know Im not the only one who agrees with this) has shown the most impressive debut I've seen... We ALL know he'll walk through his next fight they have him set for. Griffen is due for a fight now soon too...

Who do you think would win? Skill wise you know we have to go with Bisping, but DAMN Griffen doesnt know the word quit.

PLUS, whoever wins THAT fight is probably close to a title shot
Are we already talking about Bisping getting a title shot?

I would think that he would have to get through 3 maybe four more fights before he gets a title shot. I like the man, I think that he showed well in and out of the ring, but he needs to be proven more than just on a TV show.

I would like to see him work his way up. To me that's some of the best fighting. Sometimes I want the foreplay and not just the ****ing.
 

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good point

Ya man not saying he deserves a shot just yet... But I think if those 2 did fight, not only would it KICK A$$ and sell lots of tickets, it would springboard one of them up the ranks pretty quick!

I love how calm and cool Bisping was before his fights, and how focussed he was in the cage. How many rounds you think it would go?

I say 2nd round ko Bisping... :thumbsup:
 

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Are we already talking about Bisping getting a title shot?

I would like to see him work his way up. To me that's some of the best fighting. Sometimes I want the foreplay and not just the ****ing.
Bisping defanitly is a good fighter, but he is not ready for Chuck or even Tito if he wins the next fight. And what about other fighters standing in line for the title.

With that being said fighting Griffin would be a great test for him. Griffin is very impressive. I would take Griffen by split desision.

Another good fight for him might be Matt Lindland, see what he can do against a good wrestler.
 

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your going with Griffen?

Ya I suppose he has a shot at beating Bisping... I mean its kind of hard to say, we havent seen a whole lot of the guy yet.

Just that I've been watching MMA so long and the only other person that impressed me SO MUCH, SO FAST, was Belfort.
Im kinda disappointed in him disappearing the past few years, I heard about his sister. Wonder how much impact that had on the poor guy.

Point is, IF he is as good as he APPEARS to be, he might just be a contender one day soon. Like 4 fights away maybe. Especially if he pwnes his next few fights the way he did the first few. Whats the name of the guy hes fighting at Ultimate fight night? As far as I recall its pretty much a cakewalk?

and Speaking of Belfort... Anyone think he can get back to the PHENOM he once was? (Crossing fingers)
 

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I think Bisping should prove himself a bit more before stepping into the octagon with Griffin. Bisping has had what, one UFC fight where he won TUF? And geez, pretty much the entire world had him marked to win that fight. He has an 11-0 record but the light heavyweight division is so deep that I still think he needs to prove himself.

Griffin had 2 fights before he stepped into the cage with Ortiz. I think Bisping should have at least one "winnable" fight (although no UFC fight is a cake walk, just ask Ed Herman) and then a fight against someone he should beat, but might have a tough time. If he wins both fights, then sure, allow him to face Griffin.

I just don't want Bisping being thrown into such a high profile position this early when it could only lead to his downfall.
 

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I know he hasnt exactly reach CONTENDER status just yet lol

But if not Griffen? Then Who? The guy hes set to fight next shouldnt be too much a problem for him...

So if he walks through this next fight, (Which he probably will)

Then if not Griffen, who?

I just havent been able to think of a more suitable test...:dunno:
 

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Another good fight for him might be Matt Lindland, see what he can do against a good wrestler.
Lindland is a MW. Not a LHW. Nad he does not have a contract with the UFC anymore.

To the person who said the LHW division is deep.
Are you joking? The division is hurting for talent. There is Tito, who Chuck killed once. There is Babalu, who Chuck killed twice. Then there are a bunch of guys that aren't ready like Rashad, Forrest, and Bisping. I think Rashad and Babalu should fight and Forrest and Bisping should fight. These fights should take place at a Fight Night. If Dana was serious about extending his viewing audience he would actually set up some good fights for Spike. Not these one-sided fights or fights between nobodies.

I certainly do not think Forrest is someone anybody should have to fight their way up to. Bisping would give him a good fight, but I haven't seen enough of his jiu-jitsu to pick him over Forrest. I have seen Forrest get hammered and never stagger. I have seen Bisping get hit and stagger. And htough I certainly give the striking skill to Bisping I think Forrest has much quicker hands. I like Bisping more but this would be a very hard fight for him to win.
 

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i almost completely agree with zztiger... are you guys joking???

uhh he has to prove himself b4 he can fight forrest.. forrest is a nobody in the real mma world.. he got famous becuase he couldn't knock out sorry ass stepen bonnar! what the hell are u guys talkin about.. u guys give in to to much hype by dana white..

forrest is certainly not anybody u have to work your way up to. he is un proven and possibly most overrated... he has sucky striking (his specialty) and doesn't even have power.. and punches at a rate of 1 to 2 hits per 10 sec.. u guys give in to so much hype. he is not champion material...

do you guys know bisping is number 1 iin europe as his british buddy stated on the show? jesus christ ufc fans need to learn their shit.. ive seen many of his fights and forrest is shit.. no treat to bisping..

note to ufc fans stop giving into warrantless hype by the ufc.. i like it alot but have some common sense
 

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Bisping's untested, but he shows promise. He doesn't deserve a title shot right now. Hell, Griffin doesn't deserve a title shot now. The LHW division is thinner than Couture's hair.
 

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Thats why I said WHO ELSE COULD HE FIGHT

I couldnt really think of a better challenge to start him off on PPV's in the UFC. I think hes capable of walking over Griffen, but to give him someone better wouldnt be very fair either.

SO assuming he walks over his next opponent (Once again a jobber of a fight)
Who else then?

If Forest isnt much of a test then who?
 

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Is 2 fights (as I suggested) really working your way up though? Especially if he's fighting against guys he should beat with relative ease? Maybe 1 fight will be enough but he should at least win a fight before jumping right into a fight with Griffin.

Again, just let him prove that he can beat a jobber more or less and then fine, have him fight Griffin. But I think we should have all learned from Herman that no fight is a jobber fight.

Also, I do think there's plenty of talent in the LHW division. They aren't on the level of Liddell (and right now, who really is?) but there is still a lot of talent in the division. More than the other divisions anyway.
 

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The WW division is by far the deepest the UFC has and that is really because Pride doesn't have one. Every other division is week. The LHW is like the Big East right now. Liddell is like West Virginia and Tito is like Louisville. Then there are a bunch of other teams coming up but not quite ready for the talent of those two.
 

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Nice college football analogy.

The Welterweight is a solid division but Hughes (much like Liddell) has beat pretty much everyone in the division. If he gets past GSP at UFC 65, then the division flattens out much like the LHW division. Now if GSP wins, we of course get Hughes vs. GSP 3 which allows the division to build for a few more months.
 

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The Welterweight is a solid division but Hughes (much like Liddell) has beat pretty much everyone in the division. If he gets past GSP at UFC 65, then the division flattens out much like the LHW division.
If you dont think BJ Penn needs to be included here I am not sure what you are thinking. BJ Penn is defanitly better than Matt Heughes exept for one thing and that is desire. After getting beat by Matt, I hope that lights a spark under his ass. BJ at times has out classed every fighter in the devision. The only reason that BJ lost to Matt was his rib injury. Until Matt beats him in a rubber match I think that BJ has to be considered.

BJ vs GSP is still a fight I want to see happen again.

Dont forget Sherk either, he could challenge at 170 as well after he gets board at 155.
 

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I didn't forget about Penn and I would love to see Penn vs. Hughes 3. But Hughes just beat Penn so yeah, I just kind of tossed him out of the picture for now. Plus GSP beat him as well but as you said, I would love to see Penn vs. GSP again.

Sherk could easily challenge at 170 and be a contender but he's the current Lightweight Champion so until he runs through the division (which seems possible at this point), he's considered a lightweight by me.
 

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Bisping vs Griffen is the thread isnt it lol

I know its just a thought up matchup, but I think we're off track a bit.

If Bisping wins his next fight (YEP HE WILL) Who should he fight next?

I thought Griffen would be a perfect match for BOTH of them, any other suggestions?

And by the way I think if they DID fight...

Bisping 2nd round KO-- Super Tiger Flying Knee to that Cauliflower ear and THE PARTIES OOOOOOOOVER lol
 
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