[JimmyJames]

http://www.fightline.com/fl/news/2010/0322/486354/brandon-vera/index.shtml

Apparently somewhere in the "UFC On Versus" pre-fight interviews, Brandon Vera said something that upset Jon Jones. The tension that had built between the two was on display during the weigh-ins where the normally soft-spoken Jones got into Vera's face, forcing UFC president Dana White to separate the two men. It seems that "Bones" brought that extra aggression into the cage with him as well, as he needed less than a round to dispatch Vera and leave him with a severely damaged face.
Vera's manager, Matt Stansell, told MMAJunkie today that his client received three fractures to his right cheekbone.

"The whole right side of Brandon's face was numb," he said.

The fractures came when Jones landed a brutal elbow from Vera's guard about halfway into the first round. Vera rolled away while clutching his face and Jones sealed the deal with a few more punches for good measure.

Medical suspensions for the fight have not been announced yet, but with injuries like that it will likely be some time before we see Brandon Vera back in the Octagon. Vera is set to meet with a facial specialist this week to determine the extent of the damage he sustained and to determine when he will be able to return. He will most likely receive an indefinite suspension with a return to competition depending on a physician's clearance.

I really wont be surprised when elbows on the ground are banned in the UFC.

 

[VolcomX311]

http://www.fightline.com/fl/news/2010/0322/486354/brandon-vera/index.shtml



I really wont be surprised when elbows on the ground are banned in the UFC.

If they start to regulate more and more combative moves, we'll eventually be watching MMA Rock, Paper, Scissors.

Serious injuries are just collateral damage in a "combat" sport. It sucks, but that's the life you chose.

 

[rabakill]

If they start to regulate more and more combative moves, we'll eventually be watching MMA Rock, Paper, Scissors.

Serious injuries are just collateral damage in a "combat" sport. It sucks, but that's the life you chose.

if I had to choose, and the money was equal, I'd rather compete in mma than other contact games like hockey, boxing or football. Sure people get injured in mma, but the neck, spine and brain injuries are minimal in mma compared to the injuries guys get in other sports. I've seen throats cut open and people bleeding everywhere, multiple concussions, brain damage and death in other sports.... so a guy gets his face cracked up, he's not messed up for life, he didn't get brain damage and his nervous system is fine. If the UFC allows more rules added on it would be a disgrace.

 

[JimmyJames]

if I had to choose, and the money was equal, I'd rather compete in mma than other contact games like hockey, boxing or football. Sure people get injured in mma, but the neck, spine and brain injuries are minimal in mma compared to the injuries guys get in other sports. I've seen throats cut open and people bleeding everywhere, multiple concussions, brain damage and death in other sports.... so a guy gets his face cracked up, he's not messed up for life, he didn't get brain damage and his nervous system is fine. If the UFC allows more rules added on it would be a disgrace.

If the elbow that landed on Vera was an inch over he might have lost an eye. Sooner or later this will happen in an MMA bout, somebody is gonna lose an eye to an elbow and the athletic commissions are gonna ban the elbows on the ground. Just wait and see........

 

[luckbox]

I wouldn't ever want to be on the receiving end of a Bones Jones elbow. The Vera one sounded like he smashed a baseball bat to his skull.

 

[rabakill]

If the elbow that landed on Vera was an inch over he might have lost an eye. Sooner or later this will happen in an MMA bout, somebody is gonna lose an eye to an elbow and the athletic commissions are gonna ban the elbows on the ground. Just wait and see........

I don't know, if it is an isolated incident I see the UFC fighting it hard. The NHL is changing rules on headshots now, but it's taken years of bad hits and serious injuries to change it.

 

[BobbyCooper]

If the elbow that landed on Vera was an inch over he might have lost an eye. Sooner or later this will happen in an MMA bout, somebody is gonna lose an eye to an elbow and the athletic commissions are gonna ban the elbows on the ground. Just wait and see........

That is so true Jimmy! This elbow from Jones could have changed Vera's life forever that night. I still can't believe that those kind of injuries at exactly this spot didn't happened a lot more often. And if the bone really prickles into the eye-ball Vera would have lost his eyesight.

 

[SideWays222]

Dont piss off Jon Jones ehh??

 

[EVERLOST]

I dont know if you guys know this but It is FIGHTING!!! Not Pee Knuckle. He stepped into a cage to fight someone. THe force of two people slamming into each other sometimes causes injuries. All the fighters know what can happen when they get in the cage so why is it that the spectators are surprised and appauled and want rule changes because of what happened? Live in reality. You hit things they break. You get hit you break. This is not real hard to fathom. Ahh neg rep away but common sense alludes some people. If he didnt want the possibility of his life being changed he wouldnt get into a metal cage to fight someone.

 

[evilstevie]

I'm not a fan of the elbows at all.

Now kicks from the bottom, even if your opponent has a knee down, I don't understand why those are illegal.
(like the one Vera hit Jones with).

 

[out 4 the count]

Meh if it was up to me I'd allow knees to the head of a downed opponent as well.

They know what they're getting themselves into when they step into the octagon. Nobody has a gun to their head.

That being said I do respect rules like spine strikes, gouging etc but when you see nutcases like A.Silva destroy people with standing Muay Thai clinches, I fail to see how rearranging Franklin's face isn't just as bad as Jones elbow on Hamill or Vera.

 

[Shoegazer]

I could personally live without elbows in the UFC if it ever came to that. I'd still watch. I mean, if headbutts are illegal because of all the cuts and premature stoppages they cause...um, elbows? We see people split open all the time from elbows.

And I never understood why kicks from the bottom should be illegal. Does anybody have insight into that? :dunno:

 

[Wookie]

If Jones keeps throwing elbows like that they may well have to ban elbows. I personally think that the elbows are a natural element of mma. But it could end up being like Strikeforce where they don't let you elbow downed fighters.

 

[Terror Kovenant]

If they start to regulate more and more combative moves, we'll eventually be watching MMA Rock, Paper, Scissors.

Serious injuries are just collateral damage in a "combat" sport. It sucks, but that's the life you chose.

Rich Franklin already defeated Wanderlei Silva in rock paper scissors

 

[DropKick]

I dont know if you guys know this but It is FIGHTING!!! Not Pee Knuckle. He stepped into a cage to fight someone. THe force of two people slamming into each other sometimes causes injuries. All the fighters know what can happen when they get in the cage so why is it that the spectators are surprised and appauled and want rule changes because of what happened? Live in reality. You hit things they break. You get hit you break. This is not real hard to fathom. Ahh neg rep away but common sense alludes some people. If he didnt want the possibility of his life being changed he wouldnt get into a metal cage to fight someone.

This pretty much sums it up right here. MMA is a sport where the goal is to win fights by either by making him tap to a submission, knocking him out or inflicting enough damage that the ref stops it. Sometimes injuries happen as a result, that's part of the game. Punches and kicks to the head are every bit as dangerous to someones health as elbows but nobody wants them taken away. Fighters know the risks they are taking when they get in the cage.

 

[Term]

This pretty much sums it up right here. MMA is a sport where the goal is to win fights by either by making him tap to a submission, knocking him out or inflicting enough damage that the ref stops it. Sometimes injuries happen as a result, that's part of the game. Punches and kicks to the head are every bit as dangerous to someones health as elbows but nobody wants them taken away. Fighters know the risks they are taking when they get in the cage.

Yea I think everyone that posted in this thread gets that, but these days, as seen in our political climate, it's more about big brother watching out for you that letting the individual decide what risk they decide is acceptable. So I definitely see with the injuries someone like Jones can inflict, a politician somewhere is going to decide somethign has to be done.

 

[VolcomX311]

Rich Franklin already defeated Wanderlei Silva in rock paper scissors

I couldn't find a stream for it, so I missed it.

 

[xeberus]

I've always wanting to ban elbows on the ground, add up-kicks, knees, soccer kicks and stomps.

 

[yourtenderloins]

MMA "fans" crying about injuries as a result of fighting? Pathetic. If you don't want to deal with the potential consequences of being an MMA fighter, don't fight. If you don't like seeing brutal injuries ON OCCASION, don't watch . . . it's that simple.

Bottom line is this is a rare injury to see, sucks for Vera but that's the life of a fighter.

As far as banning elbows . . . give me a break. After that they can ban armbars because a couple guys got broken arms and punches to the nose next . . . then body shots for broken ribs.