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Not saying this will happen but what do you think if he wins via submission or knockout? What will you think about him then?
 

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ufc wants shamrock to win but their is no shot of tito losing
buisness wise after gracie losing yea UFC wants shamrock to win it gives them a tie breaker fight plus sets up other fights like a Gracie Shamrock and others... espically with the new TUF coming up with alot of older fighters making comeback attempts...
 

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If shamrock were to win, i believe it will be via dr stoppage. And if shamrock were to win, i think we could either expect shamrock to retire and never give tito another chance , or a match vs gracie.
 

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Did you see the first Shamrock/Ortiz fight? Shamrock got completely destroyed. You could see the fear in his eyes towards Tito Ortiz. I think he's having a hard time accepting that a new generation of fighters are moving up and taking his generations place. Tito has a lot more class than Shamrock and I'm going to have fun seeing Shamrocks face swell up like a beach ball again.
 

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Did you see the first Shamrock/Ortiz fight? Shamrock got completely destroyed. You could see the fear in his eyes towards Tito Ortiz. I think he's having a hard time accepting that a new generation of fighters are moving up and taking his generations place. Tito has a lot more class than Shamrock and I'm going to have fun seeing Shamrocks face swell up like a beach ball again.
Tito has more Class??? not sayhing shamrock is loaded with it.. but was it not Tito who beat some guy then printed tshirts making fun of him? yea thats class.... :thumbsdown:
 

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The thing with shamrock is that he demands respect (which he deserves) and he considers tito to not be about respect. He calls tito a bully and he said from years of growing up in juvenile centers that he cant stand people who bully others around. In my eyes, ortiz hasnt been the same since his loss to liddell. He hasnt decisevly won a fight, they have all be judges decisions and he should have lost his comeback fight to forrest griffen. I think that shamrock has a chance to win but i am not going to guarantee that.
 

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If Shamrock wins Tito will demand a rematch. I doubt shamrock will try a title run if he were to win. As far as fighting gracie maybe. A good old old school battle maybe even use the old rule format just for fun.
 

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If Shamrock wins Tito will demand a rematch. I doubt shamrock will try a title run if he were to win. As far as fighting gracie maybe. A good old old school battle maybe even use the old rule format just for fun.
now that is one I would have to watch how many times have they fought in the past ??? and I am sure both would agree to the old rules.. plus the long time fans would love it. that would be the headline match..
 

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Twice once gracie submitted him the other was a incredably long and boring fight 30 minutes of nothing. Shamrock knocked the hell out of him they went to the ground and did nothing. They didn't stand them up back in the day. It ended in a draw.
 

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Twice once gracie submitted him the other was a incredably long and boring fight 30 minutes of nothing. Shamrock knocked the hell out of him they went to the ground and did nothing. They didn't stand them up back in the day. It ended in a draw.
yea I think its that 2nd one I got on tape.. I liked thw old rules but I like the making them stand up rule as well.. they should fight again regardless of the ortiz out come under the old rules but add the stand up rule if nothing is happening
 

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moldy said:
If Shamrock wins Tito will demand a rematch. I doubt shamrock will try a title run if he were to win. As far as fighting gracie maybe. A good old old school battle maybe even use the old rule format just for fun.
Yeah that won't happen the old rules where to dangerous why do yuo think they changed them. You could punch to the back of the head and shit back then and pull hair IMO the rules now are better.
 

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I meant the match format. Like no standing back up no rounds just 25 minutes of scraping. And allowing gracie to wear a Gi.
 

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Tito Is Still The Same Fighter He Has Always Been ...in The Lost To Chuck He Tried To Strike With A Superior Striker..simple As That..and Against Forrest, He Nearly Killed The Guy In The First Round, And I Think He Used Up All His Energy Early...look At Both Their Faces After That Fight And You Tell Me Who Won..tito Did Alot More Damage To Forrest...after Watching Tito Vs Shamorck 1 Again ..i Just Dont See A Way Shammy Can Win He Go Dominated In Every Aspect Of Mma...shammy Is 4 Yrs Older And In Lots Of Trouble, But If He Does Fight Royce He'll Win I Can Tell U That..their Second Fight Shammy Killed Him, Its Just There Were No Judges Back Than, Royce Is Ancient History, There Are No More One Dimensional Fighters Ne More
 

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I don't see any believable way Shamrock could win this fight! If he were to win,I would have to question the legitmacy of the fight. I would think it would be to force a third match! Shamrock may demand respect,but he should consider doing things that doesn't make people lose it for him! He needs to respect his fans and other fighters. He's a hypocrite! I hope Tito retires him!
 
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