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I strongly believe that Chris Leben is pound for pound the worst MMA fighter i have ever had the misfortune of seeing.

I believe Chris Leben should crawl back into the backwater competitions where he can actually defend hmself, imean really hes an embarrasment to the world of MMA.
 

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We could, but it seems so appropriate to have a "Chris Leben sucks" thread just for those of us who want to clown on him. I'll move my last entry from the Cummo v Leben thread over here in a minute.
 

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Well, here we go again:

I wanna see him jump up to LH like Tito and see what happens. He'll get destroyed by every fighter because:
1) He has no balance when he kicks
2) He can't land a punch unless someone leans into it like Rivera did.
3) He has no groundnpound and no jiu-jitsu training.
4) He doesn't have the speed of Evan Tanner, the only successful freestyle fighter in the history of the Middleweight division
5) He can't KO a bigger guy with 1 punch, even a wimp like Rivera took him 3 solid headshots
6) His chin isn't solid enough to take a shot from the real heavyhitters, like Liddel, Tito or even Rich Franklin.
7) He doesn't know how to work a guard.
8) He doesn't know how to use his elbows.
9) He has no idea how to submit an opponent from a clinch.
And if that isn't enough, I have one more:
10) He's not smart enough to realize that all of these things need improvement.

I love watching UFC because the fighters are, usually, competant individuals with solid fundamentals. Leben is neither of those and on top of that, he has no respect for the better fighters.
 

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at last people who share my view leben does suck god can you imagine what leban would think if he came to these forums ha ironman you have that list spot on i could not have sed it better my self i think the only guy here who belives leben is eny good is eminem but he is greatly outnumberd i had a big debate with him he was sayin that leben would kill luke cummo in a fight i was havin none of it i know i was right. LEBEN HATERS UNITED stand pround my brothers the day will come when we will get to witness leben fight someone like chuck liddell and leban can feel what a real punch to the face is like whats funny is leben would probably belive he could take chuck lol
 

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iceman574 said:
at last people who share my view leben does suck god can you imagine what leban would think if he came to these forums ha ironman you have that list spot on i could not have sed it better my self i think the only guy here who belives leben is eny good is eminem but he is greatly outnumberd i had a big debate with him he was sayin that leben would kill luke cummo in a fight i was havin none of it i know i was right. LEBEN HATERS UNITED stand pround my brothers the day will come when we will get to witness leben fight someone like chuck liddell and leban can feel what a real punch to the face is like whats funny is leben would probably belive he could take chuck lol
I think (even though I know I should never make this comparison) that Guillard may very well turn into the Liddell of the middleweight division. The only difference is that Guillard is not as strong, he just has more form. I think that if some of the really great LH's start to move down to middleweight I think Leben will taste alot of punches and it won't be long until the Crappler is gone for good.

LHU for life.
 

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I hope that means he's staying gone, but anyway: If Leben wins, which he won't, then he'll go for the title and Rich Franklin will show him what a real fighter can do.
 

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It's cool, the guy just can't stand being wrong.

He must be a really big Leben fan... but then again, the guy clearly doesn't know MMA, so maybe not.

The point is that Chris Leben is skill-less and once he gets a real match (hopefully Silva) his jaw will disappear like glass.
 

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Man no one's on my other forum ill stay on this until i get banned



O DONT WORRY!?!??! WHY IS IT ON THE OTHER SITE THEY ALL AGREE WITH ME!

How is Leben the worse when there are other guy's that he beat in the UFC!?!? I think Rivera is the worse in the UFC so is COte so isEdween so are those other 2 guy's
What dumb ass say's hes the worse fighter when he's undeafeated
 

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"Chris Leben is the worse fighter in the UFC"
Me: HOW IS HE THE WORSE WHEN HE HASNT LOST A FIGHT!!
YOU: Because he's SLOPPY!!
ME:SLOPPY MUST WORK THEN RIGHT!?!?!?!
YOU:Ignores question* Ya until i see him doing some leg kick's and submissions he sucks.
ME:He already submitted and knocked out alot of people.AND WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME YOU SAW CHUCK LIDDELL SUBMIT ANYONE OR EVEN TRY!?!
YOU:CHange subject Leben is sloppy liddell isnt.



You see it's a cycle he is undefeated in the UFC get it threw your heads
 

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Eminem said:
"Chris Leben is the worse fighter in the UFC"
Me: HOW IS HE THE WORSE WHEN HE HASNT LOST A FIGHT!!
YOU: Because he's SLOPPY!!
ME:SLOPPY MUST WORK THEN RIGHT!?!?!?!
YOU:Ignores question* Ya until i see him doing some leg kick's and submissions he sucks.
ME:He already submitted and knocked out alot of people.AND WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME YOU SAW CHUCK LIDDELL SUBMIT ANYONE OR EVEN TRY!?!
YOU:CHange subject Leben is sloppy liddell isnt.



You see it's a cycle he is undefeated in the UFC get it threw your heads
Chris Leben is undefeated in the UFC because of a bad middleweight division. If the champ has only been training in MMA for 4 years (no offense towards Rich, but it's the truth) then there isn't any real compeition. You'll see when an evan tanner comes along and beats everybody into the mat.

Chuck Liddell knows what he good at, Leben might but he doesn't take advantage of the fact that he's a decent grappler. Maybe you should spend more time on forums where there are real fighters, you might learn a thing or two. (But clearly you're not interested in learning.)
 

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:dunno: WELL RICH FRANKLIN KICKED EVAN TANNERS ASS TWICE.
He ended both of they're fights......Why would you even bring Evan Tanner up?

As for People saying Leben isn't good!?!?
Ive been on 5 MMA forums I never had anyone on those forum's say he's that bad like you guys are saying.

And again hes the worse fighter in MMA and yet hes undefeated...So i guess all those people he beat are the worse fighters??:cheeky4:

Cote Droped Tito in they're fight,and that was when Cote was fat!.
 

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I bring up Evan Tanner because he was the greatest middleweight ever to compete in the UFC, Franklin beat him five year past his prime. What you're doing is like comparing the Shamrock/Ortiz fight to the Shamrock/Gracie fight.

Tito leaned into a hard, solid punch from Cote who got cheated out of his fight against Chris Leben.
 

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LOL!?!?!? He was the Champ when Franklin kicked his ******* ass i know that.
Do you have any idea how long Tanner has been in the UFC!?!?

Ya i didnt know fighters lost they're Prime at the 8th fight

EVAN TANNER IS 35 YEARS OLD FRANKLIN IS 31!!! BIG ******* DEAL.


UFC 42: SUDDEN IMPACT (04/25/03): Tanner lost a light heavyweight fight to Rich Franklin by TKO, referee stoppage due to strikes, at 2:40 of the first round at American Airlines Arena in Miami, Florida.

UFC 38: BRAWL AT THE ROYAL ALBERT HALL (07/13/02): Tanner defeated Chris Haseman by a unanimous decision in a light heavyweight bout at The Royal Albert Hall in London, England.

UFC 36: WORLDS COLLIDE (03/22/02): Tanner defeated Elvis Sinosic by TKO, doctor’s advice due to a cut, at 2:06 of the first round in a light heavyweight bout at MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas.

UFC 34: HIGH VOLTAGE (11/02/01): Tanner defeated Homer Moore by submission, arm bar, at 55 seconds of the second round in a lightweight bout at MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas.

UFC 30: THE BATTLE ON THE BOARDWALK (02/23/01): Tanner lost the main event UFC Middleweight Championship to Tito Ortiz by knockout from a slam at 32 seconds of the first round at Trump Taj Mahal in Atlantic City, N.J.

UFC 29: DEFENSE OF THE BELTS (12/16/00): Tanner made his return to the UFC successfully by defeating Lance Gibson in a middleweight bout, scoring a first round TKO at 4:48, referee stoppage from strikes from the mount, at Tokyo, Japan.

UFC 19: YOUNG GUNS (03/05/99): Tanner defeated Valeri Ignatov; referee stopped due to strikes, at 2:57 of the first round in a middleweight bout at Casino Magic in Bay St. Louis, Mississippi.

UFC 18: ROAD TO THE HEAVYWEIGHT TITLE (01/08/99): Making his UFC debut, Tanner defeated wrestler Darrel Gholar by tapout (rear naked choke) at 7:57 in a middleweight bout at Pontchartrain
 
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