[IronMan]

There are forms of combat training that some folks have been playing with that involve using only your own bodyweight. Are there any opinions on this style of strength conditioning?"

I'll throw my input out later.

 

[The Don]

if your meaning exercise to improve strength there are lots that use just body weight some more effective then others. Pilates for example, great for toning muscle and streaching both of which should be important to a fighter though kinda girly from a fighters prespective, not sure if any fighters use it never tried it myself but it seems to get results from what I hear

 

[TheSuplexor]

GYMNASTICS!=AMAZING!

http://www.t-nation.com/findArticle.do?article=04-080-feature
MUST READ!!!!^^^^^

 

[Sub By Armbar]

Well, Carlos Newton claims to have never lifted weights and that guy is always in unreal shape. So it obviously can be very effective.

 

[Sub By Armbar]

Thanks for the link doubleleg. It was a good read and just confirms that it is indeed a very effective method of training.

 

[IronMan]

Yeah, I wasn't actually thinking about gymnastics, but it's a good example.

 

[The Don]

hmm who would have thunk it but yea makes sense

 

[Paw]

How about balley dancers incredibily strong and flexible.

 

[The Don]

how would that apply to combat other then the flexability? watch a gymnast and you can almost picture them kicking somones but or a ballet dancer I'd not want one of them to kick me thats for sure.

 

[Paw]

Well the flexibility fluidity and strength and speed balance

 

[The Don]

hmm I can see that, its strange when you stop to think about it what could be used to help develope a fighter it also makes you wonder what may have once started as a fighting form possibly is disguise and has since been lost to the non fighting side, Take Capoeria (sp?) it is a fighting style that was hidden in a dance basicly, what if it never had the chance to come out again as a fighting style in the public and many more decades down the line people who did it just continued to use it as a dance and forgot its martial application? I wonder what else that has happened to in times past?

 

[TheSuplexor]

Yeah something like that could have been possible.
But that article and this article http://www.dragondoor.com/articler/mode3/229/ makes me want to take gymnastics or at least practices these exercises. I would be so friggin strong for wrestling and whatever else.
I also want a set of rings

 

[TheSuplexor]

Heres some more pics

they look better then bodybuilders!!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxEIm6aj2_8&search=pull ups
Amazing one armed pull ups

 

[The Don]

WOW THIS IS SOME CRAZY STUFF
I can see how it works and the ideas behind it seem solid, now I just need to remeber to never piss off a gymnyst.

 

[TheSuplexor]

Yeah definetely not.......But you could probably take him down and whoop him :laugh:
But they would be way to strong!!!!! I wonder if matt hughes does any of these exercsises???? And if he doesn't imagine how strong he could be!!!!!!!!
My dad used to do some Gymnastics in like middle school.
Like holding an L on the dip bar or just on the floor! I am practicing both and they work the top of your thighs like a B%tch!

this is what i try except i can't get my legs up that high yet but it is great for strength!
I am going to practice those exercises and get atleast somewhere close to being a friggin beast like gymnasts!
I also practice pistols (one legged squats)! They are amazing and i am just getting back into doing them again! They are great for evening out your leg power and adding weight to your regular squats!

 

[The Don]

hey if you can get more of these exercises and shuch post them up or direct us where we can get more information

 

[TheSuplexor]

http://www.dragondoor.com/articler/mode3/229/
yeah that is the best i can find so far^^ Which are two good exercises.
But i'll look around. I am also thinking that Break Dancing has som similarities to Gymnastics!!!!

 

[The Don]

slightly but I do not think enough being static is alot harder then holding a position while having momentum on your side and most breaking dancing static position are usually done after some sort of dynamic move and held for just a few seconds until gravity natually takes over I doubt most break dancers could hold those positions for a full minute or more

 

[TheSuplexor]

Yeah i kinda forget what the difference between static and dynmaic is.......
please explain. Yeah i just think they have some similarites like Hand Stands and like that those hand thingy's on the those two bars

 

[The Don]

Static is basicly holding a position with out movement dynamic is movements, Lifting weights is dynamic while holding a Yoga position is static.