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There is a thing that had caught on among the local thugs and bullies..They come up behind somebody and grab them by the neck with one hand.If I am not mistaken something like this was once taught in the US Armed Services, circa WWII...but they were aiming for the mastoid process near or below the ears.
My question:If somebody grabbed you like that, how would you counter it?
Appreciate your feedback, Ferdelance
 

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Yes. Just with one hand. Theyhaven't gotten around to me yet, but I've seen them do this to other people. I understand that it is painful. Your suggestions would be appreciated. Thank you, Ferdelance
 

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My english is not that good so i might not explain it like i should but what i would do is taking the hand by the wrist (with both hands) turning it so the palm is facing up, pull it and make an armbar placing the elbow in your shoulder and lifting my body up as i pull the arm down, if done hard enough the arm should break
 

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In the words of Bas Rutten

Bang! Bang! Bang! At about 3 minutes 9 seconds in you see Bas do a reversal to a hair grab from behind (yeah I know he's bald). This is applicable to the scenario that the original thread starter posted.
 

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Onganju said:
Bang! Bang! Bang! At about 3 minutes 9 seconds in you see Bas do a reversal to a hair grab from behind (yeah I know he's bald). This is applicable to the scenario that the original thread starter posted.
"It's not an eye for an eye, it's two eyes for one!"- Bas Rutten.
That was a funny as video but accurate. I've never seen anyone get out of the full nelson like that, usually you just kick the knee or heel to the crotch.
 

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I saw that escape from a Full Nelson in one of Bas' older instructional sets. What he doesn't do in that clip is the full falling slam that follows the leg scoop. If you notice at the end of doing that bit he says "I broke someone's rib doing this." I don't doubt it. When he puts the move on his training partner in the videos I've got, his training partner can't move and they cut the tape.
 

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Ferdelance said:
There is a thing that had caught on among the local thugs and bullies..They come up behind somebody and grab them by the neck with one hand.If I am not mistaken something like this was once taught in the US Armed Services, circa WWII...but they were aiming for the mastoid process near or below the ears.
My question:If somebody grabbed you like that, how would you counter it?
Appreciate your feedback, Ferdelance
You push on a pressure point directly below the ear and behind the ear. If done hard enough you can make guys bleed from the ears.
 

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You push on a pressure point directly below the ear and behind the ear. If done hard enough you can make guys bleed from the ears.
Wouldn't that also be a good place to hit with an edge of hand blow? Also, how would one locate this point? Your desocription is slightly confusing to me;maybe it is my poor language skills.
 

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OK if you run your hand down the back of your ear where it connects to your head you will that there is a small hole like place right where your jaw, ear, skull join. There is a small pressure point there. Yes you could stike there i guess probably hit the skull though. The point is if you apply enough pressure bleeding results and you bleed from the ear losing balance.
 

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OK if you run your hand down the back of your ear where it connects to your head you will that there is a small hole like place right where your jaw, ear, skull join. There is a small pressure point there. Yes you could stike there i guess probably hit the skull though. The point is if you apply enough pressure bleeding results and you bleed from the ear losing balance.
to strike that you'd need to do like a spear hand or similiar strike
 

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Thanx-found it.
I was thinking of another spot entirely. the spot that you directed me towards is only a couple of inches away that they teach (or taught) in the military as the place to strike with an edge of hand blow if you wanted to break the enemy's neck.
Do you know how to locate that spot? As I recall, if it is the right spot, you can take two fingers and tap yourself there, and you'll feel something like a "zing" in your shoulders.....Yes? No?
I appreciate this edification greatly,thanks,Ferdelance
 

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Another thing to do to mess with someones balance, cup your hand and strike the ear with your cupped hand. That will throw someone off balance enough for you to get away or set up your next move.
 

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This is a good reminder to always be aware of what is going on around you, even in seemingly safe and innocent circumstances. My instinct would be to spin towards them fists, elbows and knees flying.
 

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There are basically no rules if someone grabs you like that from behind. 'Small digital manipulation' i.e. grab a finger and try to reach his elbow with it, that should do the trick.;)
 

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Excellent advice!

Keithpas said:
This is a good reminder to always be aware of what is going on around you, even in seemingly safe and innocent circumstances. My instinct would be to spin towards them fists, elbows and knees flying.
Don't place yourself in the position of being a victim. Bullies choose what they perceive to be an easy target. Try to be in as public a place as possible with plenty of witnesses. If walking alone, keep eyes and ears wide open (no walking with headphones on). Keep your hands unoccupied in case you need to strike. If they do get their "hand" on your neck they probably expect that you fall to your knees. Do so and you should have a blind shot at the groin if you cannot turn your head. I also think that by pulling straight away, you should break the hold, unless they have huge hands with super strong grips.
 

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Good Advice

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Don't place yourself in the position of being a victim. Bullies choose what they perceive to be an easy target. Try to be in as public a place as possible with plenty of witnesses. If walking alone, keep eyes and ears wide open (no walking with headphones on). Keep your hands unoccupied in case you need to strike. If they do get their "hand" on your neck they probably expect that you fall to your knees. Do so and you should have a blind shot at the groin if you cannot turn your head. I also think that by pulling straight away, you should break the hold, unless they have huge hands with super strong grips.
good advice.. as I stated in a different thread a good martial artists knows how to avoid the fight.. weather by not looking like a potential victim or just not putting oneself in a situation to be a victim:thumbsup:
 
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