[IronMan]

Just curious what everyone's favorite subs are.

 

[IronMan]

Yeah, I'm big on the traditional BJJ armbars, but wristlocks are fun.

 

[IronMan]

If anyone has an "other" just post it. I'd like to hear it.

 

[IronMan]

In modern MMA, especially LHs and Mddls, the perferred Submission is a guillotine, at least from what I've seen. That's mostly because it's the easiest one to get, even if you don't manage to sink it in all the way.

It seems to be gaining popularity on the amateur circuit after swick and vera used them at UFC 60 against opponents that they probably should have lost to.

I'll still stick with the armbar. When used properly it is almost impossible to escape from and it hurts like hell.

 

[IronMan]

Yeah. Hughes' kimura on Riggs was definitely a good use of a submission that we don't see very often. There are a few really good reasons why we don't see kimuras in UFC, mostly because if your opponent gets their hands free then you're going to take a couple of elbows to the face before you can resteady your mount.

Armbar and triangle are definitely somthing that we see alot on the ground, but in the heavier divisions there is alot of standing and striking so we see alot fo the guillotine takedown counter and alot of the triangle choke from people over committing while being trapped in someone's guard.

 

[IronMan]

Thats what make Hughes so great. The fact that Riggs couldnt get a arm free. Hell if you think about it, it sounds easy to do but with a guy like Hughes it hard as hell.

Hughes is strong, but the only reason that Diesel didn't get out of it was because he hadn't been training to deal with submissions. He figured that Hughes would just groundnpound him.

I looked back on my last few fights and I realized that even though I'm usually a jiu-jitsu guy I've won the last 3 fights by submissio due to strikes. I think there's this advantage to using the mount and just pounding.

My vote's still for armbar, but I think that the groundnpound is the most dangerous for thicker buys like me when they're fighting in their own weightclass.

 

[IronMan]

There is actually a submission that I came across a little while ago that isn't as practical as the ones on my list, but I like it all the same. The Legs Crucifix. Here's a link on BJJ, just to give you an idea:

http://bjj.org/techniques/craigwallace/crucifix/

I've only ever really sunk it in once and let me tell you, it was fun!!!

 

[IronMan]

wow looks really hard to acheive that move and a simple collar choke would be easier.

Actually, it's just a simple adjustment from an armbar once your opponent has lost their balance and is in a sitting position. A collar choke might be easier to get initially, but it's an entirely different set of steps than this one.