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Fedor Breaks Nose and Injures Hand in Victory...*UPDATE*



According to Sherdog.com, WAMMA heavyweight champ Fedor Emelianenko suffered a broken nose and injured his left hand during Saturday night’s tussle with Brett Rogers. The Russian successfully made his U.S. primetime debut on “Strikeforce: Fedor vs. Rogers” last night, but it appears to have come at a slight price.

A source close to Team Fedor told the website that the first examination could not determine if Emelianenko had broken bones in his left haymaker, but he intends to visit a specialist on Sunday to further assess the damage.

Emelianenko extended his nearly nine-year winning streak last night by slapping Rogers silly inside the Sears Centre Arena in Hoffman Estates, Illinois. MMA’s Terminator caught the former Sam’s Club employee with a vicious right, sending Rogers to the canvas 1:48 into the 2ndRound.

After briefly attending a post-fight press conference, a banged-up Emelianenko was sent to a local hospital. He later returned with his left arm in a soft cast that went up to his elbow area.

http://www.5thround.com/news/15300/fedor-emelianenko-breaks-nose-and-bangs-up-hand-in-victory/
 

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I'm kinda hoping Fedor retires... what else does he have to prove? He has 31 wins now... and he must be on his downswing right now.

I just can't see him handling the big boys in UFC like Lesnar, Carwin, Cain Velasquez, etc. He's giving up like 30lbs to these guys. UFC is the only thing left for Fedor to do... and I have a feeling it will be his downfall.
 

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I just can't see him handling the big boys in UFC like Lesnar, Carwin, Cain Velasquez, etc. He's giving up like 30lbs to these guys. UFC is the only thing left for Fedor to do... and I have a feeling it will be his downfall.
Yeah, he's really never fought any dude over his weight before, that will be his downfall.

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Rogers was 6'4" and chunky .....he must have outweighed fedor by at least 50 lbs.


Also....this:

 

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Why ask for a retirement? He just KO'd someone? Fedor got up after that ground and pound from Rogers and continued to fight even with a broken nose and yet people are clammoring for him to retire? Seriously...
 

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I don't see why he would retire. He's only 33 years old, he has at least 4 more years where he could compete at a very high level. Plus he's finished his last 8 opponents. Hardly sounds like a guy that has lost anything.
 

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Yeah, he's really never fought any dude over his weight before, that will be his downfall.

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Rogers was 6'4" and chunky .....he must have outweighed fedor by at least 50 lbs.


Also....this:

yea cuz both those guys are comparable to lesnar and carwin....
 

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I just can't see him handling the big boys in UFC like Lesnar, Carwin, Cain Velasquez, etc. He's giving up like 30lbs to these guys. UFC is the only thing left for Fedor to do... and I have a feeling it will be his downfall.
yea cuz both those guys are comparable to lesnar and carwin....
I see no mention of skill set, just a comment about size. I can has reading comprehension plz?

Also, after seeing that Rogers actually only got around 95% demolished, I see him being in that group of "elite UFC hws".
 

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I'm kinda hoping Fedor retires... what else does he have to prove? He has 31 wins now... and he must be on his downswing right now.

I just can't see him handling the big boys in UFC like Lesnar, Carwin, Cain Velasquez, etc. He's giving up like 30lbs to these guys. UFC is the only thing left for Fedor to do... and I have a feeling it will be his downfall.
I would think he'd want to prove he can beat a current top 5 HW. Rogers is at best a 9 or 10 HW, but I do see a bright future for him. Werdum isn't even top 15 (IMO).

Of course orgs like Sherdog are going to inflate the ratings of any HW Fedor fights, just as they've done with AA and Sylvia. But Fedor knows the real talent is in the UFC. I hope his ego leads him there.

But I appreciate the honest post. Many Fedor fans secretly believe the same thing which is why they want him to eschew anything UFC. Anybody who thinks Lesnar, Carwin or Valasquez couldn't do better on the ground than Rogers (who did quite well), is living in an alternate universe.
 

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I would think he'd want to prove he can beat a current top 5 HW. Rogers is at best a 9 or 10 HW, but I do see a bright future for him. Werdum isn't even top 15 (IMO).

Of course orgs like Sherdog are going to inflate the ratings of any HW Fedor fights, just as they've done with AA and Sylvia. But Fedor knows the real talent is in the UFC. I hope his ego leads him there.

But I appreciate the honest post. Many Fedor fans secretly believe the same thing which is why they want him to eschew anything UFC. Anybody who thinks Lesnar, Carwin or Valasquez couldn't do better on the ground than Rogers (who did quite well), is living in an alternate universe.

Uh I was actually a bit frightened for this fight against Rogers....great stand up, says he had good wrestling (kinda proved it last night) but now, there are no doubts in my mind. Fedor will remain the king at HW and I don't care what people say about him not joining the UFC...which by the way is muuch more complicated than some imagine. If Dana really wanted Fedor and didn't think Fedor would destroy the UFC's top 10 HWs (which he has done partially already), Dana would sign him with the stipulations. I'm tired of people thinking Fedor is skipping out on the UFC, when in reality, it seems more like Dana and the UFC aren't willing to have him.
 

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Uh I was actually a bit frightened for this fight against Rogers....great stand up, says he had good wrestling (kinda proved it last night) but now, there are no doubts in my mind. Fedor will remain the king at HW and I don't care what people say about him not joining the UFC...which by the way is muuch more complicated than some imagine. If Dana really wanted Fedor and didn't think Fedor would destroy the UFC's top 10 HWs (which he has done partially already), Dana would sign him with the stipulations. I'm tired of people thinking Fedor is skipping out on the UFC, when in reality, it seems more like Dana and the UFC aren't willing to have him.
where do you get this info from your head?? Dana offered him more $ then strikeforce and would have allowed him to do his Sambo thing, why would Dana be afraid Fedor would win?? It would make him boatloads of $ and send Fedor into superstar status in the united states likely making him more $ in the process too.
 

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I'm kinda hoping Fedor retires... what else does he have to prove? He has 31 wins now... and he must be on his downswing right now.

I just can't see him handling the big boys in UFC like Lesnar, Carwin, Cain Velasquez, etc. He's giving up like 30lbs to these guys. UFC is the only thing left for Fedor to do... and I have a feeling it will be his downfall.
There is less weight between Velasquez and Fedor than there is between GSP and BJ, not size % actual pounds. Cain is not a big HW by anymeans.
 

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Even the shot Fedor hit him with in the first could have done some serious damage and looked brutal.
 

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Uh I was actually a bit frightened for this fight against Rogers....great stand up, says he had good wrestling (kinda proved it last night) but now, there are no doubts in my mind. Fedor will remain the king at HW and I don't care what people say about him not joining the UFC...which by the way is muuch more complicated than some imagine. If Dana really wanted Fedor and didn't think Fedor would destroy the UFC's top 10 HWs (which he has done partially already), Dana would sign him with the stipulations. I'm tired of people thinking Fedor is skipping out on the UFC, when in reality, it seems more like Dana and the UFC aren't willing to have him.
UFC is the big leagues. Fedor is a minor league star. He's exciting, and a fight with Wurdum will give us some great highlights. If that's all you need, more power to you.
 

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where do you get this info from your head?? Dana offered him more $ then strikeforce and would have allowed him to do his Sambo thing, why would Dana be afraid Fedor would win?? It would make him boatloads of $ and send Fedor into superstar status in the united states likely making him more $ in the process too.
Um, there was more speculation than just money. Fedor wanted his Red Devil Fighters to be able to fight in the UFC too...Sometimes (I;m a Jew) but it's not all about fighting. You really are going to sit there and tell me Fedor is scared to fight in the UFC?

UFC is the big leagues. Fedor is a minor league star. He's exciting, and a fight with Wurdum will give us some great highlights. If that's all you need, more power to you.
Uhhhh....so wait who is in the big leagues again? Bug Nog, Mark Hunt, Arlovski, HMC, .....yeah get off your ******* pony fofce (not even a high horse) and understand the error of your ways. Fedor beat Cro Cop in his prime, beat Big Nog who is probably one of the best HWs in the world and even for ****'s sake...got a german suplex by Randleman and stood up right after it happend. I know it's great to try to be the outside so in that rare occasion you can tell people how right you are, but it's not going to happen with Fedor.
 

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Um, there was more speculation than just money. Fedor wanted his Red Devil Fighters to be able to fight in the UFC too...Sometimes (I;m a Jew) but it's not all about fighting. You really are going to sit there and tell me Fedor is scared to fight in the UFC?



Uhhhh....so wait who is in the big leagues again? Bug Nog, Mark Hunt, Arlovski, HMC, .....yeah get off your ******* pony fofce (not even a high horse) and understand the error of your ways. Fedor beat Cro Cop in his prime, beat Big Nog who is probably one of the best HWs in the world and even for ****'s sake...got a german suplex by Randleman and stood up right after it happend. I know it's great to try to be the outside so in that rare occasion you can tell people how right you are, but it's not going to happen with Fedor.
Im a Jew aswell, but what does this have to do with anything?? Who demands a major sports league to let their friends in too?? Ridiculous, and no, i dont think Fedor fears fighting in the UFC, i think his management does.

Whats next, Lebron James demands the Knicks draft his friend and sign a few of his boys?? Is this reasonable?? Come on, they had unreasonable demands from the get go, like they werent really interested.

BTW how you like Fedors bro's nazi like tat?? How can you be a fan?
 

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...Uhhhh....so wait who is in the big leagues again? Bug Nog, Mark Hunt, Arlovski, HMC, .....yeah get off your ******* pony fofce (not even a high horse) and understand the error of your ways. Fedor beat Cro Cop in his prime, beat Big Nog who is probably one of the best HWs in the world and even for ****'s sake...got a german suplex by Randleman and stood up right after it happend. I know it's great to try to be the outside so in that rare occasion you can tell people how right you are, but it's not going to happen with Fedor.
.....all of whom are getting and have been destroyed in the Big Leagues, in much worse fashion that at the hands of Fedor. I don't know why you're being so defensive about this. And you wouldn't even have to if Fedor would just do the right thing and prove himself in the big leagues. Then the debate is over. Why would you not want this?
 

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I would think he'd want to prove he can beat a current top 5 HW. Rogers is at best a 9 or 10 HW, but I do see a bright future for him. Werdum isn't even top 15 (IMO).

Of course orgs like Sherdog are going to inflate the ratings of any HW Fedor fights, just as they've done with AA and Sylvia. But Fedor knows the real talent is in the UFC. I hope his ego leads him there.

But I appreciate the honest post. Many Fedor fans secretly believe the same thing which is why they want him to eschew anything UFC. Anybody who thinks Lesnar, Carwin or Valasquez couldn't do better on the ground than Rogers (who did quite well), is living in an alternate universe.
Arlovski was ranked #2-4 when Fedor beat him, Sylvia was ranked #4 when he beat him, and Rogers was generally ranked around #5-6, not 9.

http://www.fightmatrix.com/mma-ranks/heavyweight-265-lbs/

After his LOSS to Fedor, Rogers is ranked #7. I realize it's not the be all end all of rankings, but the general population and "official" rankings all have Rogers top 10, and he was borderline top 5 before the Fedor fight.

Fedor proved last night (again), that he can take a borderline top 5 who is much larger than he is, having no experience in a cage, and knock him out in the second round with being in 0 trouble the whole fight except the ground and pound, which lasted the sum of about 3 seconds and Fedor wasn't even rocked or hurt.

Fedor has almost always beaten top 10, borderline top 5, top 5, and even #2 guys, throughout his entire career, having no real losses.
 

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Listen at 2:40 when Fedor throws that punch.. you hear a loud popping sound as if Fedor broke his hand or if Rogers got his jaw snapped. I've never heard that loud of a snap befor just from the gloves hitting flesh.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zK_2Gxo0U4&annotation_id=annotation_645263&feature=iv
Yah heard that the first time around. Thought it was more of the impact, but that was a home run. Surprised Rogers wasn't flat out KOed unconsciously. Damn, really wish John give Fedor a couple of more shots in for added measure.
 

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