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Who do you think would win if Franklin moved up to LW, or Liddell moved down to MW?

IMO, I think if Franklin could take Liddell down then its Franklin's game for sure. But is Franklin's Striking skill Remotely close to Liddell's, I mean we all know Franklin has KO power as shown on Nate Quarry.

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OOO shit, this would be such an amazingly hard decision, as I go to the same gym that franklin trains in middletown OH. Damn, I would have to say franklin but I donno if that's a biased decision based on the fact that hes my favorite UFC fighter. It's a very difficult fight to call, but one thing that wouldn't be difficult to call about it is that it would be an amazing fight.
 

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I think Liddell would wreck him for the following reasons, Liddell has much better striking, I know Franklin would win on the ground but Liddell's takedown defence is insane, i mean probably one of the only people to Take him down is Rampage Jackson and Couture, and Franklins wrestling just isn't up to par with theirs so i don't think he'd be able to take liddell down.
 

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IMO Franklin's ground game is as good as his stand up. I donno, I really believe that there would be an upset with Franklin as the victor, although Liddell does have a really good take down defense, I think that by avoiding any devistating connects, Franklin could pull it off. Hes a very smart fighter and controls many a more aspects than Liddell.
 

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HARD_KNOCKS said:
I think Liddell would wreck him for the following reasons, Liddell has much better striking, I know Franklin would win on the ground but Liddell's takedown defence is insane, i mean probably one of the only people to Take him down is Rampage Jackson and Couture, and Franklins wrestling just isn't up to par with theirs so i don't think he'd be able to take liddell down.
Franklin would wreck liddell..............O plz

Liddell is an amazing puncher with an awsome Chin.Yes Franklin is very skilled he isn't going to take him down or KO him.but so was Vitor.I remember Rich being Dropped by Evan tanner who isn't even known for his striking,And by Crow.Chuck would KO him definatly K0 him.
 

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Franklin would wreck liddell..............O plz

Liddell is an amazing puncher with an awsome Chin.Yes Franklin is very skilled he isn't going to take him down or KO him.but so was Vitor.I remember Rich being Dropped by Evan tanner who isn't even known for his striking,And by Crow.Chuck would KO him definatly K0 him.
That made no sense. Did you mean to quote me? And by saying that Liddell would definitly wreck Rich Franklin, perhaps you should learn more about MMA. It's a whole lot more than striking it's controling the fight, which Rich Franklin can do better than anyone else in his weight class. But what you also have to understand is that Franklin is a weight class below Liddell. If either one moved up or down a weight class to fight each other, it would be an interesting thing to see. To fight each other one or the other would have to make a big change, and either way I'm seeing franklin having the upper hand. All Liddell can do is go down a weight class if he so chose to, and that can really mess with a fighter. Gaining weight to fight someone is easier, as your building yourself more muscle mass. I doubt they will ever fight tho.

Btw, evan tanner never dropped Rich Franklin, donno who your thinking of but franklin definitly beat the hell out of him. Twice.
 

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I don't think if this fight happened anyone can say someone would get wrecked due to the fact that as Joe Rogan likes to say any fighter has a chance because of the fact that the human body isn't ment to get hit in the face.

On that note i think Liddell would have the upper hand due to the fact that it seems the Light Heavyweights are on there feet more then MW's are. Also Heavyweights usually hit harder because a natural LW is over 205 where a natural MW is more around 205 itself (look at dean lister for example, hes moving down to MW). I think the fight would be more of a Power vs Speed fight. It'd be a good one although it will never happen due to all the ultimate fighter guys.
 

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CTFlyingKnee said:
why is there ANOTHER post about this? Its not going to happen, and if it did, Chuck would kill Franklin
Actually in a Post fight interview with Franklin I think at USA VS CANADA the reporter asked Rich what he thought about Him fighting Liddell in the near future and he said somthing like Be my guest, If he decides to drop down to MW then it will be an amazing match. Chances are when Chuck looses his title to Silva and after the Rematch with Tito he'll drop down and fight him.

I'll try and find the video on UFC.com
 

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CTFlyingKnee said:
why is there ANOTHER post about this? Its not going to happen, and if it did, Chuck would kill Franklin
Actually in a Post fight interview with Franklin I think at USA VS CANADA the reporter asked Rich what he thought about Him fighting Liddell in the near future and he said somthing like Be my guest, If he decides to drop down to MW then it will be an amazing match. Chances are when Chuck looses his title to Silva and after the Rematch with Tito he'll drop down and fight him.

I'll try and find the video on UFC.com

P.S Rich franklin did get dropped in his Last fight against Tanner.
 

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chuck will never go down to 185 hes too big..rich could easily fight at 205, he walks around at like 212..if they did fight i think this would be an incredible fight..both would tee off on each other but i see chuck eventually catching rich with a nice shot and gettin the tko...but i think this fight would be very even chuck wins cuz he got a better chin thats all
 

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the only way liddell could drop weight is if he cut a leg off. Franklin would have to move up, and even though he is my favorite fighter, I'd give it to Chuck. I think everybody would be suprised by the lack of strikes, I think they'd end up throwing alot of kicks, but in the end, Chuck would grind him out. This match would definatly end on somebody making a mistake
 

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That made no sense. Did you mean to quote me? And by saying that Liddell would definitly wreck Rich Franklin, perhaps you should learn more about MMA. It's a whole lot more than striking it's controling the fight, which Rich Franklin can do better than anyone else in his weight class. But what you also have to understand is that Franklin is a weight class below Liddell. If either one moved up or down a weight class to fight each other, it would be an interesting thing to see. To fight each other one or the other would have to make a big change, and either way I'm seeing franklin having the upper hand. All Liddell can do is go down a weight class if he so chose to, and that can really mess with a fighter. Gaining weight to fight someone is easier, as your building yourself more muscle mass. I doubt they will ever fight tho.

Btw, evan tanner never dropped Rich Franklin, donno who your thinking of but franklin definitly beat the hell out of him. Twice.


I just came up with logics on why Liddell would KO him.


1.Franklin is smaller
2.Franklin has been dropped by Evan Tanner and The Crow (EVAN TANNER DROPPED HIM WITH A PUNCH never said he won did I?
3.Liddell is a skilled striker with a punch that takes out Heavy weights.
4.Rich Doesn't have the best take downs and he's going against one of the best take down defense artist in the bussiness.
5.Even if he did Chuck is a master at getting back to his feet.And is a purple belt in BJJ so it would be hard for him to get submitted.

These are just things that i came up with
 

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up a weight class down a weight class chuck walks away with this, i love rich, but there is no way chuck will lose to him, franklin's chin is in question, yes he did get dropped by tanner, and tanner is not really know for his strike standing, it's simple really rich wouldn't be able to take chuck down, and rich is definately not dumb enough to stand up and bang with chuck, so love you ace but you won't get out of this alive!
 

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Chuck said in response to this "If i chop my leg off ill make 185".....so no way is this gunna happen. Rich must move up - which IMO i think he could fight 205 and do very very well. On his day he could beat Chuck. Rich is extremely well versed in all areas and possibly one of the best rounded fighters.

Keep dreaming on this fight however....
 

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U Guys Act Like Franklin Would Have No Chance..jeremy Horn Lasted Four Rounds Striking With Chuck And His Strikes Arent Even Close To As Good As Franklins..franklin Was A Beast When He Faught At 205 Hes Actually Better Fit For 205 He Has To Cut Alot Of Weight To Get Down To 185 ..he Looks Alot Better At 205..he Dismantled Shamrock In 2 Mins At 205.liddell Is No Shammy But Rich Would Give Chuck All He Could Handle..close Fight With Chuck Eventually Catchin Rich In The Fourth Or 5th..but Chucks Face Would Look Like He Had Been In A Fight Unlike It Usually Does
 

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jdun11 said:
U Guys Act Like Franklin Would Have No Chance..jeremy Horn Lasted Four Rounds Striking With Chuck And His Strikes Arent Even Close To As Good As Franklins..franklin Was A Beast When He Faught At 205 Hes Actually Better Fit For 205 He Has To Cut Alot Of Weight To Get Down To 185 ..he Looks Alot Better At 205..he Dismantled Shamrock In 2 Mins At 205.liddell Is No Shammy But Rich Would Give Chuck All He Could Handle..close Fight With Chuck Eventually Catchin Rich In The Fourth Or 5th..but Chucks Face Would Look Like He Had Been In A Fight Unlike It Usually Does
We seem to all agree that Rich would have to move up. I agree that 205 is not a stretch for him. I disagree that this fight would be lopsided. Franklin has great, yes I said GREAT, striking. People don't notice his striking because it is precise and methodical. Raining bombs like Chuck does is what gets noticed. Bringing up the Crow fight is ridiculous since Rich barely looked winded and the Crow looked worse than Shamrock after his first beating by Ortiz. I agree that the smart money would still be on Chuck but it would be no cake walk. Can't wait for the Silva fight.
 
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