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I don't know about you guys, but what would you think about FRANK Shamrock vs. Tito? I know frank isn't with UFC currently. I have to admit, I don't know too much about him, but I do know he beat Tito a while back. It could be a great pay day for the UFC .. a family grudge match ... with Frank trying to avenge the 3 losses his brother had!
 

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Ken and Frank don’t even speak to each other so I wouldn’t count on any family revenge, plus Frank has said many times that he will never fight for the UFC again and Tito has said that he wants to only fight for the UFC. The first time they fought it was a very close fight until Tito gassed out and since that is no longer a factor I wouldn’t count on ever seeing Frank beat Tito’s ass, I think Tito could win in a rematch.
 

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Yeah Frank stated he would never fight for the UFC again... but money has ways of talking as we know. Anyways, a well rounded fighter like Frank would whoop that ass again Im sure. I miss seeing Frank fight and it will be good tosee him fight again in the WFA.
 

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Well, he is getting paid 7 figures to fight for some organization called the world figher championships or something like that and I’m sure the UFC will not offer him anything like that. Like I said before Frank didn’t beat Tito’s ass is the first fight, it was very close until Tito gassed so I don’t know why people keep saying Frank will beat his ass AGAIN. There is a difference between losing a fight and getting your ass beat.
 

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Yeah Frank stated he would never fight for the UFC again... but money has ways of talking as we know. Anyways, a well rounded fighter like Frank would whoop that ass again Im sure. I miss seeing Frank fight and it will be good tosee him fight again in the WFA.
Old topic - but was it just the $$ issue - someone said Frank has a 7 figure contract? Is that true?
 

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I heard he hates Dana White and what he's turned the UFC in to, I'm pretty sure those are the reasons he never wants to fight in the UFC again. But you never know, like someone already said money speaks louder than words.
 

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I doubt we'll see it. But I wont count it out. After all no one would've expected Tito to be in the UFC about a year ago. Anyway I think Tito would win. Frank won the last fight because of cardio and Titos past Frank in cardio.
 

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TLB said:
Ken and Frank don’t even speak to each other so I wouldn’t count on any family revenge, plus Frank has said many times that he will never fight for the UFC again and Tito has said that he wants to only fight for the UFC. The first time they fought it was a very close fight until Tito gassed out and since that is no longer a factor I wouldn’t count on ever seeing Frank beat Tito’s ass, I think Tito could win in a rematch.
i know ken and frank dont talk but why doesnt frank ever want to fight with the ufc anymore?
 

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Frank Shamrock won that fight because he was smarter allowing Ortiz to take him down to wear himself out, then laughed about it while it was happening. Frank it good at sweeps on the ground and defends well, but probably would have a tougher time with Ortiz this time around since Ortiz is older and smarter than when they fought last time.

I'd go with Ortiz by Decision this time.
 

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TLB said:
Ken and Frank don’t even speak to each other so I wouldn’t count on any family revenge, plus Frank has said many times that he will never fight for the UFC again and Tito has said that he wants to only fight for the UFC. The first time they fought it was a very close fight until Tito gassed out and since that is no longer a factor I wouldn’t count on ever seeing Frank beat Tito’s ass, I think Tito could win in a rematch.

Yeah I think Frank even said he knew Tito Ortiz was going to kick Ken's ass.
I don't think he really cares
 

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I heard he hates Dana White and what he's turned the UFC in to, I'm pretty sure those are the reasons he never wants to fight in the UFC again. But you never know, like someone already said money speaks louder than words.
Oh, they definitely don't like each other.

Dana doesn't think Frank's worth the money he demands.
Dana thinks Frank is insane.
Frank thinks Dana is a loud mouthed ego maniac.
Dana probably thinks the same.

Tito vs Frank 2 will never happen, but it's a nice dream. I actually would rather have them not fight again to tell you the truth. What if the second fight sucks? Then it sort of tarnishes their classic first encounter.
 

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Oh, they definitely don't like each other.

Dana doesn't think Frank's worth the money he demands.
Dana thinks Frank is insane.
Frank thinks Dana is a loud mouthed ego maniac.
Dana probably thinks the same.

Tito vs Frank 2 will never happen, but it's a nice dream. I actually would rather have them not fight again to tell you the truth. What if the second fight sucks? Then it sort of tarnishes their classic first encounter.
I think they are both loud mouth ego maniacs!!!!!!!!!! Dr. Evil!!!!!!!!
 

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Old topic - but was it just the $$ issue - someone said Frank has a 7 figure contract? Is that true?
That was me and yes it is true.
Official Site of MMA Legend Frank Shamrock

For some reason that link did not go where it was supposed to, you will have to click on news, then news archives then scroll down and click on “9/06 Shamrock signs to fight with TWF”.
 

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I can't answer this question cuz I haven't seen Frank fight a serious opponent in quite a while...for all we know Frank could be 100 times better than Ortiz, so it makes no sense to try and say Tito or Frank would win. Now, if the question is Frank in his prime vs. Tito of today then I think we'd see Tito win a split decision.
 

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WouldLuv2FightU said:
I can't answer this question cuz I haven't seen Frank fight a serious opponent in quite a while...for all we know Frank could be 100 times better than Ortiz, so it makes no sense to try and say Tito or Frank would win. Now, if the question is Frank in his prime vs. Tito of today then I think we'd see Tito win a split decision.
Wow, Frank must be a better fighter than I thought
 

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WouldLuv2FightU said:
I can't answer this question cuz I haven't seen Frank fight a serious opponent in quite a while...for all we know Frank could be 100 times better than Ortiz, so it makes no sense to try and say Tito or Frank would win. Now, if the question is Frank in his prime vs. Tito of today then I think we'd see Tito win a split decision.
Hey is the guy who kept saying the Franklin fight was fixed - is he BANNED? maybe we're not so lucky but I haven't heard from him in a bit ... I think a lot of people were reporting him!
 

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tito would beat frank pretty easily now adays, frank hasnt faught ne one as good as tito in a long time and i think tito would overwhelm him
 
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