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i am new here. does anyone here know good takedown defense other than sprawls? if so can u tell me how? im usually being shot at and since im not strong or fast, i want to work at technicality. tips are welcomed. u can pm me or something if u want to
 

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k, i'm not that good in takedowns,so take my advice with a grain of salt.

Usually from what i understand if they are doing a double leg or single leg takedowns they have to clear your defenses first(which is your head,hands, fore arm and hips)they clear this one by changing levels(they have to be lower than you when they shoot) and by pushing or shoving up your defenses.

so my advice is , when they change level,..you change level with them and go for underhooks.

Example of getting the underhook while they are about to do a double or single would be , you changing level with your opponent:

a)your left hand/forearm would be shoving or pushing his head/shoulder(if they pass this defense) and
b)your right elbow is tuck to your body , your right arm is on the outside of your right thigh(so when they shoot for a double or single you already got the underhook)
c)feet are slightly apart(kinda like squatting but your left leg is in the back , and your right knee is pointing at your opponent)

if you still did not get the underhook and they pass all your defenses, you still have the good old sprawl:cool:
 

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the best and most evective takedown defence I have ever used is acalled the crucifix take down. It is simple when a guy shoots in on you you do the oposite of a spraw. you get a dubble underhook and roll babackwords there is somuch force moving in that direction that when your back hits the floor you will keep rolling untill his back hits the ground and you are on top.
 

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One thing to keep in mind with sprawls is that you can combine the sprawl with a spin. In which case, you aren't always sprawling to the back but to your opponents side. This is extremely useful for those that continue to drive through their takedowns as you won't always have to meet their force full on. By allowing it to continue past you, you are now in a better position to attack.

Also, if you are in a situation where the space is enclosed and their is an obstruction behind you (like a cage fence, training room wall, or car for example), you will be able to redirect your opponent into that obstruction and still allow yourself space to move and escape. So drill the straight sprawl, and also drill sprawling out to your left and to your right.
 

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Here is the technique I use daily;

I shoot first. .

I don't give my opponent time to be the aggressor. Different styles for different people, though. If you can't get the sprawl down, make sure your opponent doesn't get you in that situation.
 

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ok anyone else? oh and it is pointless t5o follow them down as then they could easily go after me and i would lose my balance. i would have to jump and sprawl at the same time, and i am slow. come on people wrestling season is starting on december 1at or around there
 

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How about you push of there head and jump over there back?

lol j/k

I always hoped someone would do that, kinda like the TKD guy in that MMA vid where he gets OWNED! hahaha
 

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Why are you not sprawling?

My little brother can stuff a shot with a sprawl, and he's tiny. Strength and speed have way less to do with it then timing it properly, that's why Chuck is so hard to takedown.

Just do basic td defense excersise first. If you do 500 sprawls a day pretty soon you won't be weak and slow. It's good training, if not for the actual conditioning than certainly for the discipline.
 

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When they shoot in make sure you only give up one leg (don't let them double leg you), and practice with your balance on the one leg hopping around staying up right. If that's all you do they will eventually be able to finish the takedown, but if you get good from there there are lots of counter attacking options from a well balance single legt attempt.

If they stand up with the single leg (your left) balance and reach across and attack the Kimura on their right arm.

Another option I use if they are standing with the single and have their head on the inside, if you can push their head to the outside of your leg (again if they have your left) hopping around to your right and bending your knee in. Cross face and sit, grabbing their near side leg (their left) from the side. Drive through them, pulling their right arm with the hand you used to cross face, to turn them to their back.

Don't know if I was clear, but those are some sub defenses I play with. In the end though, for shooting style takedowns your best bet is to learn to sprawl well first. Second option would be what I listed above about only giving up one leg.
 

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In my opinion you gotta sprawl. It's the most effective way to stuff the takedown. If your saying that your not strong and quick enough just work on your strength conditioning and drill the hell out of the sprawl, that should should help with the timing and speed thing. Also you can plant a knee in your oppenents face when he shoots on you.
 

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Ybot said:
When they shoot in make sure you only give up one leg (don't let them double leg you), and practice with your balance on the one leg hopping around staying up right. If that's all you do they will eventually be able to finish the takedown, but if you get good from there there are lots of counter attacking options from a well balance single legt attempt.

If they stand up with the single leg (your left) balance and reach across and attack the Kimura on their right arm.

Another option I use if they are standing with the single and have their head on the inside, if you can push their head to the outside of your leg (again if they have your left) hopping around to your right and bending your knee in. Cross face and sit, grabbing their near side leg (their left) from the side. Drive through them, pulling their right arm with the hand you used to cross face, to turn them to their back.

Don't know if I was clear, but those are some sub defenses I play with. In the end though, for shooting style takedowns your best bet is to learn to sprawl well first. Second option would be what I listed above about only giving up one leg.
It's a thought, but anyone with even a hint of common sense would kick out your other leg. I don't know if you've ever heard this saying, but it appllies:

"Give me an inch and I'll take your foot."

Don't give them a leg. Don't give them anything. That's like saying, "I'm going to miss this punch on purpose, because it sets up this other punch." I fantastic way to get KTFO'd.
 

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It's a thought, but anyone with even a hint of common sense would kick out your other leg. I don't know if you've ever heard this saying, but it appllies:

"Give me an inch and I'll take your foot."

Don't give them a leg. Don't give them anything. That's like saying, "I'm going to miss this punch on purpose, because it sets up this other punch." I fantastic way to get KTFO'd.
First of all see the last paragraph of my reply...
Don't know if I was clear, but those are some sub defenses I play with. In the end though, for shooting style takedowns your best bet is to learn to sprawl well first. Second option would be what I listed above about only giving up one leg.
As far as tripping up the leg, well sure you could, but with good balance and an agressive game I could just as easily throw him with an Uchi Mata first (if I practice it and I'm good at it). Remember there are counters to everything, and so no strategy is perfect.

Oh, and it's not the same as missing a punch, sorry. More like not checking a leg kick so you can come over the top with an overhand right to counter. :)
 
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