Mixed Martial Arts Forum banner
1 - 20 of 26 Posts

·
Registered
Joined
·
14 Posts
Discussion Starter · #1 ·
Figured i'd say hi today and see if anyone has any questions.

I'll be around until ~5PM today so please say hello.

You can check out info on me at my website MMAmachine or you can check out kennyflorian.com coaches section.


-doug-
 

·
True Grappler
Joined
·
6,222 Posts
It's good to have you. Try looking into the Training and Conditioning section, we would be glad to have your input.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
669 Posts
Theres nothing you can do.

Kenflo will get destroyed by sherk, its just simple as that.

Same as
Hughes Vs Gracie
Frank Shamrock Vs Cesar Gracie
and every other strong wrestler that fights a 1 sided jiu jitsu fighter.


but it's cool to hear from someone who knows what they're talking about, i actually have a few conditioning questions lol

I'll put them on the right forum though.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
14 Posts
Discussion Starter · #4 ·
IronMan,

Thanks for the welcome. Since my time was limited, i thought i'd post on the busiest forum, since it's still relevent. Of course questions can be conditioning related, or general Florian or UFC related questions. I am also a liscenced cornerman in the state of Nevada, and there will be a UFC all access featuring how i prepare kenny for fights.

Any questions are welcome.

-doug-
 

·
True Grappler
Joined
·
6,222 Posts
I was going to mention the whupping that KenFlo is in for against sherk, but because you did it for me, I'd like to add a little bit.

First, Kenny isn't only a BJJ fighter like the Gracie's are. On the other side of that, Sherk is way to strong to be submitted and his standup is to good for him to be KO'd or TKO'd. So basically, I don't see Kenny's outs.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
14 Posts
Discussion Starter · #7 ·
Questions do not need to be only related to conditioning. I am also a liscenced cornerman for the state of Nevada, and the UFC is doing a show about kenny's team helps him to prepare for fights. All questions are welcome.

-doug-
 

·
Premium Member
Joined
·
5,989 Posts
Welcome Vermonter. Hope you enjoy your stay.

How many days a week does KenFlo workout currently - and does each days training consist of?

Who is he training his stand up with?

What's his diet consist of (if you know...)?

Also, what does HE, in his own mind believe are his strongest & weakest aspects of his game right now?
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
14 Posts
Discussion Starter · #9 ·
RAZOR said:
Welcome Vermonter. Hope you enjoy your stay.

How many days a week does KenFlo workout currently - and does each days training consist of?

Who is he training his stand up with?

What's his diet consist of (if you know...)?

Also, what does HE, in his own mind believe are his strongest & weakest aspects of his game right now?
Kenny trains about 6 days per week, often twice per day. Right now, his general preparedness takes up about 4 workouts per week, but it will increase to 5 as the fight nears.

Kenny trains in muay thai at the Sityodtong acadamy in Boston. His primary instructor is Kru Mark Dellagrotte, a heavy weight champion and top ten world ranked muay thai fighter in thailand.

Kenny also has worked with Peter Welch for his boxing.

Kenny's diet is designed by me. The first time kenny got the call to fight at 155 he was 187, one month out. If you watched his fight with Stout, Mike Goldberg mentioned that i moved in with him to help him make weight. His diet largely depends on his needs. Right now he is eating to maintain his walking weight, but will eventually need to eat to cut weight.

-doug-
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
669 Posts

·
Registered
Joined
·
14 Posts
Discussion Starter · #11 ·
Forgot your last question.

Kenny believes his strongest point is his MMA. We are working hard to intigrate his skills into a unified skill set, and it's been amazingly effective, as his improving performance shows.

As far as weak points, we are working at improving his takedown defences, since that is Sherk's greatest strength.

-doug-
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
14 Posts
Discussion Starter · #12 ·
Spit206Fire said:
http://www.mmaforum.com/mma-training-nutrition/1424-training-supplement-questions.html


thats the questions im having.

Basically with NOX-CG3 whats a good dieting strategy and whats the best way to work with during creatine, all in one? or area's of the body each day?
I'm a little unsure of your question based on wording, but i'll do my best.

A good dieting strategy to simply lose weight is to eat sensibly, and perform a great deal of aerobic conditioning. However, this strategy might be different if you are preparing for a competition.

You also asked about how to work out using either a bodybuilding split design or a full body workout? Again, it depends on your desired results, but in general i recommend full body for most athletes.

-doug-
 

·
Premium Member
Joined
·
5,989 Posts
I've had some trouble in the past with this...so I might as well ask ya:

What is the best way to cut weight without going into a fight feeling drained and tired?
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
669 Posts
Well ok i'll try and simplify this a little.

I do Wrestling,Kempo Jiu Jitsu, and Muay Thai.

I am just starting up training again and wan't to know what the best way to get back into shape is, and also GAIN muscle.

I fight at 155 as well and right now walking weight im 168 pounds and im also 14% body fat, which is WAY more then i want right now.

So its basically whats the best way to gain muscle and loose weight?

Right now im working out like this.

M/W/F- 20 Minute Warm up on Cardio machines (eletric bike/tred mill, matters on whats open in the gym and if i feel like sitting lol)
Then i go into all upper body that day. I'll do about 3 sets with 10 reps per set on each free weight and weight machines. then with a 20 minute cooldown of cardio

T-TH-S- 20 minute warm up/cool down with cardio machines. Then i'll do the same sets/reps, just with my lower body.

Thats just what im doing now, i haven't started the supplements and dieting yet, im waiting for once i start college for all that, where i can be more focused and i'll be training then to.

Edit: best way i know to cut weight is what we do in wrestling. Day before/of the weigh in you just relax, do some light cardio in a job suit, and maybe sauna it off if your having that much trouble.

When i was competting i fought 155 and walked around about 164 so i didn't really have to loose a TON of weight but, thats just what i did.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
14 Posts
Discussion Starter · #16 ·
RAZOR said:
I've had some trouble in the past with this...so I might as well ask ya:

What is the best way to cut weight without going into a fight feeling drained and tired?
It's important to seperate the types of weight cutting that also require a great deal of energy, like spending time in the sauna, with those that don't require energy, such as fasting. It's important to minimize those that require energy.

-doug-
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
14 Posts
Discussion Starter · #17 ·
UFCFAN33 said:
welcome to the site Doug, Quick question did kenflo wrestle in high school or play any sports?
Kenny played soccer in high school and then in college. Sounds like he was pretty good too. Sometime during college he also began BJJ, but didnt have any previous combat sports experience.

-doug-
 

·
Premium Member
Joined
·
5,989 Posts
I hear ya Spitfire. Here's an example...I fight at 170 now...but before my last fight - I was walking around at 202 lbs. So, I'd like to see what Vermonter offers me here. :thumbsup:
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
14 Posts
Discussion Starter · #19 ·
Spit206Fire said:
Well ok i'll try and simplify this a little.

I do Wrestling,Kempo Jiu Jitsu, and Muay Thai.

I am just starting up training again and wan't to know what the best way to get back into shape is, and also GAIN muscle.

I fight at 155 as well and right now walking weight im 168 pounds and im also 14% body fat, which is WAY more then i want right now.

So its basically whats the best way to gain muscle and loose weight?

Right now im working out like this.

M/W/F- 20 Minute Warm up on Cardio machines (eletric bike/tred mill, matters on whats open in the gym and if i feel like sitting lol)
Then i go into all upper body that day. I'll do about 3 sets with 10 reps per set on each free weight and weight machines. then with a 20 minute cooldown of cardio

T-TH-S- 20 minute warm up/cool down with cardio machines. Then i'll do the same sets/reps, just with my lower body.

Thats just what im doing now, i haven't started the supplements and dieting yet, im waiting for once i start college for all that, where i can be more focused and i'll be training then to.

Edit: best way i know to cut weight is what we do in wrestling. Day before/of the weigh in you just relax, do some light cardio in a job suit, and maybe sauna it off if your having that much trouble.

When i was competting i fought 155 and walked around about 164 so i didn't really have to loose a TON of weight but, thats just what i did.

For many people it is very difficult to lose fat while gaining muscle, primarily because optimizing your insulin process is required for gaining muscle, but insulin has the duel effect of protecting fat stores from releasing free fatty acids. You best bet is to compartmentalize your goals. Try to maximize hypertrophy now, while eating sensibly, and then diet once you've achieved the level that pleases you, OR the opposite, lose body fat first, and then work on hypertrophy. To do both simultaneously requires an extremely complicated diet and workout schedule which is impractical for almost anyone outside of professional athletics.

Are you monitoring your heart rate daily?

-doug-
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
14 Posts
Discussion Starter · #20 ·
RAZOR said:
I hear ya Spitfire. Here's an example...I fight at 170 now...but before my last fight - I was walking around at 202 lbs. So, I'd like to see what Vermonter offers me here. :thumbsup:
Do you cut from 202, or is that in the "off season?"

-doug-
 
1 - 20 of 26 Posts
Top