I am just curious as to how you all feel Bruce Lee would stack up, going by what you know of his training methods and attitude and all. I'll post my opinion later after seeing some of yours so as not to taint your opinions with mine I am looking for some honest answers
How would Bruce Lee stack up in MAA
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Easy.
Bruce Lee would flatten, ANY MMA artist in the business. He is the exact embodiment of what the perfect martial artist is. He is strong, very fast, with great endurance. His training methods were unothadox, pushing his body to limits beyond the comphrension of now-a-days fighters. Bruce Lee could take any of them. He was beyond anything that was before him, and is far beyond anything todays fighters have to offer. He would KO the stand up fighters, and Tap-out any Gracie, or any body else for that matter.
Bruce Lee, would own anyone.. NO Questions asked.
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Bruce Lee would flatten, ANY MMA artist in the business. He is the exact embodiment of what the perfect martial artist is. He is strong, very fast, with great endurance. His training methods were unothadox, pushing his body to limits beyond the comphrension of now-a-days fighters. Bruce Lee could take any of them. He was beyond anything that was before him, and is far beyond anything todays fighters have to offer. He would KO the stand up fighters, and Tap-out any Gracie, or any body else for that matter.
Bruce Lee, would own anyone.. NO Questions asked.
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Uhh..
No.. I'm not kidding.. Where do you get your idea that he was tapped out by Gene LeBell.. ?
http://www.genelebell.com/stories.html#11
No.. I'm not kidding.. Where do you get your idea that he was tapped out by Gene LeBell.. ?
http://www.genelebell.com/stories.html#11
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If he trained with Gene, he was tapped. Gene is not a nice man when he rolls (he is a very kind-hearted guy, but he isn't called one of the "most sadistic SOBs on the planet" for nothing). Guys who've gotten a chance to learn from him at his Gym in Hollywood (which is now run by Gokor if I'm not mistaken) or get a chance to spend a weekend at his cabin in Big Bear will quickly attest that he's not reluctant at all when it comes to stretching guys out.
As far as Bruce goes, I doubt he'd have too much of a chance. Don't get me wrong, he was a great Martial Artist. However, I think his biggest contribution to the Martial Arts community as a whole was the fact that he insisted on "taking what works" and "discard[ing] the rest" in his quest to find a complete fighting style. If he had spent a lot more time fighting in truly competitive situations, it would be a lot easier to get a more realistic perspective. As far as reality goes, we can only guess.
I do know I'd pay big money to see it if it were possible.
As far as Bruce goes, I doubt he'd have too much of a chance. Don't get me wrong, he was a great Martial Artist. However, I think his biggest contribution to the Martial Arts community as a whole was the fact that he insisted on "taking what works" and "discard[ing] the rest" in his quest to find a complete fighting style. If he had spent a lot more time fighting in truly competitive situations, it would be a lot easier to get a more realistic perspective. As far as reality goes, we can only guess.
I do know I'd pay big money to see it if it were possible.
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Assumption?
Ahhh, I see. So you are on the ASSUMPTION that Lee would have tapped, since he trained with him. Oh, alright, we are ASSUMING things now. Well then, hell, anything can happen when we are GUESSING now can't it. Next time, please specify that we are ASSUMING things, alright? Thanks.
Bruce Lee's style of the intercepting fist was brilliant, and IMO the most effective martial art out there, which is why, I still say he would flatten any of the generic, punch-and-hope-for-the-best, or clinch-and-takedown-punch, fighters.
Anyways, I agree, I would pay big money to see it.
Ahhh, I see. So you are on the ASSUMPTION that Lee would have tapped, since he trained with him. Oh, alright, we are ASSUMING things now. Well then, hell, anything can happen when we are GUESSING now can't it. Next time, please specify that we are ASSUMING things, alright? Thanks.
Bruce Lee's style of the intercepting fist was brilliant, and IMO the most effective martial art out there, which is why, I still say he would flatten any of the generic, punch-and-hope-for-the-best, or clinch-and-takedown-punch, fighters.
Anyways, I agree, I would pay big money to see it.
HMm well Bruce did eventually go on to realize that even his style he created JKD was flawed, in hios opinion all styleswere flawed by the simple concept of having a style Now I am not saying Bruce would win every fight no one is that good, but I think he might really have been the first one to have the concept of a MMA art, and if someone beat him chances are that would be the first and last time that person ever did so.
Bruce trained for a different reason then most MMA fighters do as well.. for most MMA fighters its a job or a chance to be tough, for BRuce it was a way of life, he did not fight much cause for him his skills were to be used in self defense and if he must he would kill his opponent (not that he has but that was his philosiphy
Bruce trained for a different reason then most MMA fighters do as well.. for most MMA fighters its a job or a chance to be tough, for BRuce it was a way of life, he did not fight much cause for him his skills were to be used in self defense and if he must he would kill his opponent (not that he has but that was his philosiphy
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Tit-for-tat sir... You cannot say that BruceCopperShark said:Ahhh, I see. So you are on the ASSUMPTION that Lee would have tapped, since he trained with him. Oh, alright, we are ASSUMING things now. Well then, hell, anything can happen when we are GUESSING now can't it. Next time, please specify that we are ASSUMING things, alright? Thanks.
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Anyways, I agree, I would pay big money to see it.
without making an ASSUMPTION on your own part. Not to be disrespectful, but the guys dead. We can only play games of "what if?" It would be like speculating how Buddha would do against Ghandi in a wrestling match (although, my money would be on Buddha).
True to words. In retrospect, that may his biggest contribution to the Martial Arts community as a whole.
Hmm some interesting points mde by all.. and for those who have not guessed I am a huge Bruce Lee fan, more due to his work ethic and all, and his movies are cool too.. it really would have been interesting to see how Bruce would have reacted to all of this.
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Bruce Lee would use his favorite technique.....And win.
Media: "Bruce what's your favorite technique?"
Bruce: "A Gun."
Yeah, his work ethic was godly, haha.
Media: "Bruce what's your favorite technique?"
Bruce: "A Gun."
Yeah, his work ethic was godly, haha.
Based on the fact that there are now weight classes in the UFC, Lee would have to fight at welterweight, currently the lowest weight class. So, he would have to face someone like Matt Hughes. Hmmm let me see Bruce Lee versus Matt Hughes. Lee was about 5'6" and 135lbs. He was lightening fast and could hit like a mule. If he bulked up I would suppose he would lose what made Bruce Lee, Bruce Lee. So we have Bruce Lee in his prime versus the Matt Hughes who fought Royce Gracie. Result: Hughes by submission or referee stops contest. Bruce is one of my heros and one of the reasons I studied Wing Chun for 10 years but you have to cut through all the entertainment show biz fighting and realize that a good big man always beats a good small man. Size does matter. Especially in a contest with rules and rounds.
Now Bruce with some mma training going up against a man of his own stature, man I'd hate to be his opponent.
And finally, what if Bruce Lee met up with Matt Hughes in the park and for whatever reason got into it. Then I would say that Matt Hughes would not know what hit him. Using vital striking points, shoes, no gloves and no rules would be advantage Lee. Especially because Matt Hughes would be facing the kind of attack he never has seen or has had experience combating. Kinda reverse of what Lee would be facing against Hughes in the octagon.
Now Bruce with some mma training going up against a man of his own stature, man I'd hate to be his opponent.
And finally, what if Bruce Lee met up with Matt Hughes in the park and for whatever reason got into it. Then I would say that Matt Hughes would not know what hit him. Using vital striking points, shoes, no gloves and no rules would be advantage Lee. Especially because Matt Hughes would be facing the kind of attack he never has seen or has had experience combating. Kinda reverse of what Lee would be facing against Hughes in the octagon.
Excellent post man some very very excellent points if I recall Chuck norris made a similar comment about bruce after bruce lost in one of his rare tournament appearences that Chuck said in a real fight with no rules bruce would have destroyed him ( now this might just be rumor if anyone out there knows for sure if they even fought I would like some confirmation) and yea Bruce lee did not enter many tournements for the simple reason his style was not intended for competition it was for real combat his moves and techniques were designed to do as much damage as possible and kill if necceassary.
Once again awesome post DAT.
Once again awesome post DAT.
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Great question
I have always thought about who would win that fight if it did occur and I also agree that Bruce outside the octagon would most likely win with his speed alone but inside the cage I think he would struggle a bit.
What I would like to see is Matt Hughes against Chuck Lidell or something. Royce fought people twice his size and won so lets see what Hughes can do with a match like that.
I have always thought about who would win that fight if it did occur and I also agree that Bruce outside the octagon would most likely win with his speed alone but inside the cage I think he would struggle a bit.
What I would like to see is Matt Hughes against Chuck Lidell or something. Royce fought people twice his size and won so lets see what Hughes can do with a match like that.
I think the main difference now is the new rules when gracie foguth in the early UFC there were really long or no time limits his style allowed him to take his time. the new UFC does not allow for that so it forces the action which goes against the basic principles of gracie ju-jitsu
and yea I think bruce would struggle a little in the ring but I think he'd win way more fights then he would have lost
and yea I think bruce would struggle a little in the ring but I think he'd win way more fights then he would have lost
I think Bruce vs Hughes may be a disaster for Bruce. Much like Gracie. Dont get me wrong, i wanted gracie to win and i had faith he would, and he got destroyed.
Fighters have evolved a lot, more well rounded.
Theres also many other factors when it would come to bruce vs ?? , would bruce be comfortable in the ring, could he utilize it?
Fighters have evolved a lot, more well rounded.
Theres also many other factors when it would come to bruce vs ?? , would bruce be comfortable in the ring, could he utilize it?
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I want to pose another question ontop of this.
How well do you guys think Tony Jaa from the movie (Ong Bak) would do in some lightweight/welterweight fights?
If you have seen his movies, he posses some of the most unique Muay Thai techniques seen. Very innovative air kicks, grappling holds/takedowns. Lots of knees and elbows to effective areas. Hes very agile and quick. Almost a new Bruce lee but with ancient muay thai influences.
He can also take quite a load of punishment.
I think himself versus Nick Diaz or GSP would be quite an eyefull of a fight.
How well do you guys think Tony Jaa from the movie (Ong Bak) would do in some lightweight/welterweight fights?
If you have seen his movies, he posses some of the most unique Muay Thai techniques seen. Very innovative air kicks, grappling holds/takedowns. Lots of knees and elbows to effective areas. Hes very agile and quick. Almost a new Bruce lee but with ancient muay thai influences.
He can also take quite a load of punishment.
I think himself versus Nick Diaz or GSP would be quite an eyefull of a fight.
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