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I got to say I believe Shields. I think he's proven he's not a guy who makes stuff up.

http://www.cagepotato.com/jake-shie...eforces-problem-company-only-pushes-has-beens

When Jake Shields announced that he would be testing the free agent waters when his Strikeforce contract ended this summer, every MMA fan and journalist collectively thought, "He's going to the UFC." Strikeforce must have been thinking the same thing, considering they let Shields, who is their middleweight champ, go without a fight by releasing him without tendering a final offer before he began the open negotiation period with other promotions.

Even if a company like the UFC made an offer, Strikeforce, by rights could have matched any offer on the table, but by releasing him from his contract, the only thing they did was possibly prevent a bidding war resulting salary increase for Shields.

He told BJPenn.com that the release was totally unexpected.

“It came as kind of a surprise. I hadn’t really been talking to Strikeforce and pretty much everyone knows that I want to go to the UFC. We got our negotiations going with the UFC and they (Strikeforce) dropped me without any warning and it came out of nowhere. It is what it is and I’m moving ahead with the UFC contract and hopefully that will be worked out soon.”

Although unexpected, Shields says it likely wouldn't have mattered as the level of competition he could face under the Strikeforce banner at both middleweight and his usual home at welterweight. The company drove the final wedge between themselves and Shields at the Fedor vs. Werdum show June 25. A lack of respect he felt he had been shown was amplified that night and it severed the few remaining strands of chance that he might stick around.

“They certainly didn’t treat me like a champion. I went up there thinking that I was the champion, didn’t have any tickets and wasn’t able to get in. Finally one of the Showtime guys was able to get me in and then Scott Coker had some tickets for me but they were way way way up in the stands where I barely could see and I was really surprised because I didn’t realize that is how Strikeforce treats their champs. At that point I didn’t realize that we weren’t negotiating anymore and first off they didn’t give me any tickets and when they did they were in the nosebleed seats. Finally one of the Showtime guys was able to get me down in the front row. They obviously wanted Henderson to win from the beginning and they were a little upset about that but I guess they just got mad at me for winning.”

As far as his negotiations with the UFC are concerned, Shields says the deal is all but done and should soon be signed, sealed and delivered after both sides finish doing the numbers dance. Shields says that when the contract becomes official, he doesn't want a tune-up fight, he wants to jump into the mix of contenders.

“I’m just talking to UFC at this point and I’m sure we will work something out. I’ve really wanted to fight for the UFC for about a year or so and it just wouldn’t make sense for me to fight anywhere else. Especially if Dana White and the Fertitta brothers and everyone at the UFC is being really fair and it just wouldn’t make sense for me to go elsewhere...It’s hard to put exact times on it because it’s one of those things. The numbers have to go back and forth, my dad’s lawyers will look over them and the UFC’s lawyers will look over them but I don’t think it’ll take that long. I think this point we are done with Strikeforce and I think we are pretty close to coming to an agreement. Because at this point I want to fight in the UFC and they say that they want me and there is no reason why we can’t get this done soon. I’m training my ass right now and I’m ready to go. I just want to get this contract done and I hope that they have a fight ready for me. Like I said I’ve always been a person who will step anytime…whenever and I’m just hoping that they will give me a big name right off the bat. I wanna go out there and show that I belong with the top dogs.”

Although he isn't sure whether he'll remain at 185 or move back down to 170, Shields says he hasn't decided, but revealed that he will be pushing his teammates Gilbert Melendez and Nick Diaz to jump ship with him to the Octagon when their current deals with the "number two promotion" expire. As he did in Strikeforce, he may need to stay at or move up to middleweight if and when that happens to avoid being matched up with Diaz.

“I don’t want to knock Strikeforce because that’s not my style even though they did treat me like shit which was unnecessary because I never talked bad about them. Honestly I would love to see Gilbert and Nick in the UFC. Even though Strikeforce is a good show, everyone knows it’s the number two show. They have a handful of good fighters but all the top competition is in the UFC and I feel that Nick and Gilbert are good enough to fight at the highest level. I would love to see them come over and once I get signed I’ll have to put that in Dana’s ear. I think they are two of the best of the best. I know the UFC likes having the best of the best and it just makes sense for them to be there."

A big part of the disrespect Shields says not only he was shown, but also was heaped on guys like Melendez, Diaz and King Mo, was the fact that the promotion seemed to market itself on its more seasoned, bigger name fighters.

"I feel like they (Strikeforce) want to go after the places that have already been built like Shamrock or Cung Le. They don’t seem really interested in building top young fighters in their prime. They had a great batch of young fighters like me, Nick, Gil and King Mo but they weren’t interested in great young fighters and instead all the push went to “has beens” like Shamrock and Cung Le. It seemed like they wanted to push people who were no where near their prime.”
 

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What did he expect? They give him hugs for quitting SF and leaving them without a champ.

He goes to ufc and sits next to Dana to make some kind of point. He and everybody else knows he will join UFC, but then he is ow so surprised they dropped him. Give me a break.
 

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Wait! Last week Dana was on video saying that the UFC didn't talk to Jake Shields while under contract, but Jake is coming out saying they were speaking with the UFC, then got clipped by Strikeforce?

Dana, as if we didn't already know, you're a poor, pathetic excuse of a liar.
 

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He said that he would "never talk to a fighter while they are under contract with another promotion," yet Shields has just admitted that he was talking to the UFC during his contract with Strikeforce.
Where does it say that he talked with Dana while he was still under contract? He has been released from his contract and now is talking with the UFC.
 

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Yeah before that it was just a posibility!
I mean obviously Dana didn't ignore the guy and run out of the room every time he saw him. If you watched the ultimate fighter, you know the Shields was there helping Liddell. You had to pay attention to catch him, but he was definitely there a lot. On that note if Dana knew he was going to come to the UFC back then why wouldn't a Shields got to speak at least a word on camera? All the other asst. coaches do.
 

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Man I'm looking forward to Shields coming over, kicking some ass and taking names in the UFC - gonna be awesome! :)

But please, for the love of God, don't bring Diaz with you... Can't stand him :/
 

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Dana, as if we didn't already know, you're a poor, pathetic excuse of a liar.

Kinda reminds me of how he said he isn't interested in signing Fedor anymore becuase... "the UFC never signs fighters coming off of a loss"

But wait.... did they not just sign Mark Hunt? He's lost 5 in a row.....

Meh it doesn't matter.

Good luck to Jake though, there are some very interesting fights waiting for him in the UFC.
 

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Kinda reminds me of how he said he isn't interested in signing Fedor anymore becuase... "the UFC never signs fighters coming off of a loss"

But wait.... did they not just sign Mark Hunt? He's lost 5 in a row.....

Meh it doesn't matter.

Good luck to Jake though, there are some very interesting fights waiting for him in the UFC.
I don't think the UFC is interested in Hunt. He won't be around for more than one fight. He is being brought in so that a local Indiana guy has someone to knock out. Dana's not interested in Fedor for these reasons: Fedor will probably still demand the same amount of money and promotional control even though his stock has dropped. Would Dana sign Fedor under Dana's terms for fighters? Of course, but since that loss there's no way he's going to make concessions.
 

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He said that he would "never talk to a fighter while they are under contract with another promotion," yet Shields has just admitted that he was talking to the UFC during his contract with Strikeforce.
The fighting contract was over they were in a matching period where other companies can offer new contracts and strikeforce had the option to match it and resign him.
 

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I don't think the UFC is interested in Hunt. He won't be around for more than one fight. He is being brought in so that a local Indiana guy has someone to knock out. Dana's not interested in Fedor for these reasons: Fedor will probably still demand the same amount of money and promotional control even though his stock has dropped. Would Dana sign Fedor under Dana's terms for fighters? Of course, but since that loss there's no way he's going to make concessions.
That's neither here nor there in regards to your Hunt comment. I'm talking about hipocritical comments.

I'd get a kick out of it if Hunt was somehow able to put a streak together. He's actually fun to watch fight.
 

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That's neither here nor there in regards to your Hunt comment. I'm talking about hipocritical comments.

I'd get a kick out of it if Hunt was somehow able to put a streak together. He's actually fun to watch fight.
It's not a hypocritical comment. Of course the UFC signs one fight deals with alot of guys coming off losses, but they don't go out and sign multi-fight big money deals with guys who just lost. You're comparing apples and oranges my friend.

That being said I don't think Dana is being hypocritical, I think he's lying on this one. If Fedor called up Dana today and said, "I'm dumping m1 global Strikeforce has released me. I'll do a normal multi-fight deal." He'd sign him in a heartbeat.

As far as Hunt is concerned he was never that good to begin with, and now doesn't appear to be putting the training time in. I don't see him putting a run together.
 
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