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A middleweight bout between Kendall Grove and Goran Reljic has been demoted to UFC 116's un-aired preliminary card, and a light-heavyweight fight between Seth Petruzelli and Ricardo Romero has been promoted to its slot on UFC 116's "UFC Prelims" special on Spike TV.

A source close to Spike TV today confirmed the change with MMAjunkie.com (www.mmajunkie.com).

The source said Grove prompted the change after the fighter openly criticized the UFC's longtime cable partner and their involvement in "The Ultimate Fighter."

UFC 116 takes place July 3 at the MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas. Heavyweights Chris Tuchscherer and Brendan Schaub compete in the other "UFC Prelims" fight, which airs prior to the night's pay-per-view main-card broadcast.

Grove, who was the season-three middleweight winner of "The Ultimate Fighter" reality series, earlier this week told Tapout Radio that Spike TV officials only care about ratings and getting "as much drama and stupidity out of us" as possible with little regard for the cast members' careers.

Grove rejoined the radio show a few days later and apologized to Spike TV officials, UFC president Dana White and UFC matchmaker Joe Silva for passing off his personal feelings as fact. He said he "put my foot in my mouth" and thanked Spike TV officials for "giving me my shot" with the UFC.

Unfortunately, it appears it was too little too late with UFC and Spike TV executives, who now have relegated Grove (11-7 MMA, 6-4 UFC) and Reljic (8-1 MMA, 1-1 UFC) to one of the event's four un-aired slots.

"Kendall made his feelings clear about Spike TV," the source said. "Besides, Seth has a great story and is a 'TUF' alum."
 

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I knew something would happen. If you look back to the first post about Kendall speaking out, I said that I didnt think Dana would like this, or that Spike would complain to Dana and force him to do something.

Promoters > fighters
 

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So much for freedom of speech.

It shouldn't be ethical for corporations or businessmen to censor disagreeing points of view. That's how China, North Korea and other totalitarian regimes do things -- control what people are allowed to say / think.

Kendall Grove is entitled to his opinion, and coming down on him like this as a result of his personal beliefs / viewpoint should be prosecutable as a form of discrimination.

For all we know, Jamie Yager didn't steal Uscola's sweatshirt. It was some SpikeTV croney intending to start drama -> boost ratings.

If Kendall gets cut, I might wind up boycotting SpikeTV and the UFC. **** those greedy bastards.
 

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So much for freedom of speech.

It shouldn't be ethical for corporations or businessmen to censor disagreeing points of view. That's how China, North Korea and other totalitarian regimes do things -- control what people are allowed to say / think.

Kendall Grove is entitled to his opinion, and coming down on him like this as a result of his personal beliefs / viewpoint should be prosecutable as a form of discrimination.

For all we know, Jamie Yager didn't steal Uscola's sweatshirt. It was some SpikeTV croney intending to start drama -> boost ratings.

If Kendall gets cut, I might wind up boycotting SpikeTV and the UFC. **** those greedy bastards.
Disagree. a company has every right to try and protect their brand image.

FWIW, I'm a big fan of Kendall.'s and even met him once.
 

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I'm always pulling for Kendall, even though he is pretty unsportsmanlike all around. I'm just a sucker for guys like him and Vera.

But he is a nobody to be insulting SpikeTV. Does he not like his royalties for being on tv several times a week? Maybe he didn't negotiate a good enough contract, but that is his fault.

It sucks we don't get to see him fight, but I don't really care I will watch the fight online anyway.
 

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Disagree. a company has every right to try and protect their brand image.

FWIW, I'm a big fan of Kendall.'s and even met him once.

Employing someone doesn't give you the right to control what they say or think, nor to penalize them for their opinions.

Employers can get away with it as they are allowed to broadly define the terms of the working relationship. And, thus, one of the first terms they define is the right to fire or demote someone without just cause.

Unfortunately, the terms they define have a tendency to be abusive and exploitative. They conflict with a person's contitutional rights and freedoms. The Constitution gives people a freedom of speech. But, corporations and big business try to take that right away from people in the form of censorship and a threat of punishment.

It shouldn't be allowable for them to abuse their employment priveleges to where it interferes with a person's constitutionally given rights.

If they want to defend their brand name, let them hold a press conference and disagree. Penalizing someone & trying to shut them down for having an opinion they dislike is barbaric. It may not be as blatant as holding a gun to someone's head to censor them and force them to shut up. But, not so different.

If they decide to make an example of Kendall in order to enforce their socialist policies and shut down individual freedom of speech, I'm done with the UFC and SpikeTV.

It was bad enough that they were shortchanging their fighters and paying them peanuts in comparison to how much a boxer with similar PPV numbers, makes. If they begin to censor their fighters then **** em'.
 

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Employing someone doesn't give you the right to control what they say or think, nor to penalize them for their opinions.

Employers can get away with it as they are allowed to broadly define the terms of the working relationship. And, thus, one of the first terms they define is the right to fire or demote someone without just cause.

Unfortunately, the terms they define have a tendency to be abusive and exploitative. They conflict with a person's contitutional rights and freedoms. The Constitution gives people a freedom of speech. But, corporations and big business try to take that right away from people in the form of censorship and a threat of punishment.

It shouldn't be allowable for them to abuse their employment priveleges to where it interferes with a person's constitutionally given rights.

If they want to defend their brand name, let them hold a press conference and disagree. Penalizing someone & trying to shut them down for having an opinion they dislike is barbaric. It may not be as blatant as holding a gun to someone's head to censor them and force them to shut up. But, not so different.

If they decide to make an example of Kendall in order to enforce their socialist policies and shut down individual freedom of speech, I'm done with the UFC and SpikeTV.

It was bad enough that they were shortchanging their fighters and paying them peanuts in comparison to how much a boxer with similar PPV numbers, makes. If they begin to censor their fighters then **** em'.
They're a company, and if you honestly believe you should be able to get away with talking trash on a company in which you're employed in public, you're not going to make it very long in the real world. There are many companies that keep track of your social sites, including Facebook and MySpace. If they don't like how you control yourself, they will terminate you. It's the real world, whether you like it or not. You have the freedom of speech, when you're not in a mutual agreement with your employer.

That said, you should be done with the UFC and SpikeTV. You should also be done with every major corporation around the world.
 

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Man, Grove has gotten what he deserves, but this sucks for Reljic. I hope he knocks Kendall the phuck out to earn a spot on a televised event in the near future.

When youre still looking for a fanbase and some exposure and your opponent makes a whoopsie and gets your fight taken off air, you gotta be pi$$ed.
 

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Kendall played with fire and he got burned, it was his own fault. Do not discredit the channel that can influence your salary.
 

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They're a company, and if you honestly believe you should be able to get away with talking trash on a company in which you're employed in public, you're not going to make it very long in the real world. There are many companies that keep track of your social sites, including Facebook and MySpace. If they don't like how you control yourself, they will terminate you. It's the real world, whether you like it or not. You have the freedom of speech, when you're not in a mutual agreement with your employer.

That said, you should be done with the UFC and SpikeTV. You should also be done with every major corporation around the world.

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All politicians need to do is make it illegal for corporations to discipline or fire their employees without just cause.

Problem fixed.

What people do or say on myspace or facebook, businesses and corporations shouldn't be able to say anything about.

When people start to say that kissing ass and allowing some business to control aspects of your private life is a good thing. You have to wonder how brainwashed people have become. Being a sheep is nothing to brag about.

And, if being a sheep is "the way" to succeed in the UFC or anywhere, then thats completely retarded.

When did it become 'ok' for businesses to lord it over people and tell them what they can and cant do as if they were nazis?

I cant wait till the government "regulates" the internet. Then, I can probably be fired or 'disciplined' just for making comments like this.

BS. Yeah.
 

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All politicians need to do is make it illegal for corporations to discipline or fire their employees without just cause.

Problem fixed.

What people do or say on myspace or facebook, businesses and corporations shouldn't be able to say anything about.

When people start to say that kissing ass and allowing some business to control aspects of your private life is a good thing. You have to wonder how brainwashed people have become. Being a sheep is nothing to brag about.

And, if being a sheep is "the way" to succeed in the UFC or anywhere, then thats completely retarded.

When did it become 'ok' for businesses to lord it over people and tell them what they can and cant do as if they were nazis?

I cant wait till the government "regulates" the internet. Then, I can probably be fired or 'disciplined' just for making comments like this.

BS. Yeah.
They already need 'just cause' in the majority of the country, but publicly speaking about your employer is considered 'just cause' for termination. You're tarnishing their brand.

When you apply, they typically ask for your social site information, including passwords. If you don't want them having access, you don't have to apply.

Either way, I'm not saying that I disagree with you, but when all is said and done, I'm an adult and can deal with not having a Facebook account.
 
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