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For some time now I've been looking to find a style that will help me be successful in the world of mma i'am pretty tall at 6'3 and looking for a good style that fits my body size and frame anybody got any imput on what would be a good fit for me, i like to stand and get on the ground as well. Hit me up with some suggestions please. peace i'am gone :thumbsup:
 

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Well, it wouldn’t be trendy if someone didn’t say B.J.J.. Aside from that some striking training, kick boxing would be beneficial.
I think to be successful you have to look at what the successful people are doing currently in the ring.
 

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thanks for the tip. :thumbsup: yo this guy is the chit when is he coming to the octogon or the pride ring his muy thai is amazing you always have the good chit on the downloads big ups to yah.
 

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same topic, sorta

Hey all. I gotta admit I feel kinda dumb, because I can't figure out how to start a NEW thread! But what I want to say is related, so I might as well post it here I guess. My question is simple...are there rules or laws about what age is "too old" to fight in MMA? I ask this because I really do want to at least give it a try, but I'm already 42 years old. I have a LOT of street fighting experience, and can say without being conceited (or delusional) that I have always been a naturally good fighter. But I've also never had any real training to speak of, nothing 'official" at least, and due to my old lifestyle being...shall we say, a bit insane, I spent over ten of what should've been the best years of my life as a guest of the Canadian government. During which time I DID at least learn about what it takes to be seriously dedicated to training, but of course I couldn't pursue an actual career. It really sucked to sit and slowly watch as MMA grew in popularity, knowing I could probably have at least done okay in the local Canadian ranks if I coulda just got some training in the grappling part of things. By the way, I'm NOT stupid, and I do realize that being a good street fighter with quick hands and feet doesn't necessarily mean much if you get up against someone good at wrestling or judo or BJJ. But on the other hand, I also know that you can't teach HEART, and that you do still need to be naturally tough and able to withstand pain as well. Anyways, there's the problem. Now that I'm finally ABLE to pursue my dream, I'm at the age when all the best fighters are either already retired or seriously considering it. But when I watch stuff like TKO (out of Quebec), or King of the Cage or whatever out of Edmonton or Calgary...let's just say that it REALLY gets to me to see some of the guys who are actually WINNING fights at those events! I mean, c'mon...I KNOW I could beat some of these guys even without any further training, okay, and I'd bet my LIFE on that. So then, there's my question...say I DO actually try to pursue this, would I even be ALLOWED to fight under most state or provincial laws? Anyone with info, I'd seriously appreciate an answer, or help on where I can find out this kind of stuff. To be specific, I guess I'm asking about Western Canada to begin with...Saskatchewan and Alberta being my most likely fight locations. Thanks for listening, and thanks to anyone if they have any info that might help an "old' guy like myself to at least attempt his dream before it's too late.
 

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Not to be rude.

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I don't mean to be rude here. But you need to think logically. You are 42 years old. Which is already starting off wayyyy to late. You're body is and has been starting to deteriate. Your street fight experiance won't help you in the ring. It'll only give you a tough chin. Which isn't enough to be successful at any kind of MMA. You need great standup, ground and pound, and grappling to even be considered a slightly good fighter. You cannot train heart, I agree, but without training of any kind, you heart will be crushed. You must have heart, then train on it. I've been trained by many people, (Most renowned Sensai Vern Tilley) all of which tell me, that a lifetime of street fighting, would be destroyed by one year of training. In that, for all your 42 years of streets, my 1.5 years of training tells me that you, have nothing on me. Which is saying something, because I don't imagine myself doing real MMA for at least five years. You need to look at the facts. 42 years young, with no training. Odds are against you. BUT, I'm not telling you to not follow your dream, by all means, get training, and go for it. But it will be a hard and vicious road, for a 42 year old to get good in three areas of combat, pick up a style, and the hardest thing, get good cardio, will be a difficult time, to say the least.

Those are the facts. Good luck. :dunno:

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If you want a fight style that can capitalize on your height you also got to think about your build.
If you're lankier and want to fight with bigs guys the answer is probably kickboxing.
However, if you're stockier and more muscular then you might want to start with some wrestling for groundnpound.
If you want to be one of my opponents (i'm only 155, depending on what i eat for breakfast) than you should probably stick with straight boxing.
That's all the advice i got for you.
As for the older guy who wants to start: You can start now, but your conditioning will be sub-par and the guys you will be fighting probably have more sparring experience beyond streetfighting.
 

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I agree starting this late you have EVERYTHING working against you and this is alot different then street fighting, a great street fighter in most cases is barely an amatuer in MMA, and it is mainly a level of skill and dedication MMA fighters train very hard and constantly look to improve thier skills street fighters either have it or don't you really can't train for that, now I might suggest a more structured art espicaly if your just looking for a good competition, maybe like Tae Kwon Do I understand you can easily earn a black belt in 2 years
 

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I agree starting this late you have EVERYTHING working against you and this is alot different then street fighting, a great street fighter in most cases is barely an amatuer in MMA, and it is mainly a level of skill and dedication MMA fighters train very hard and constantly look to improve thier skills street fighters either have it or don't you really can't train for that, now I might suggest a more structured art espicaly if your just looking for a good competition, maybe like Tae Kwon Do I understand you can easily earn a black belt in 2 years
Be nice! I don't think these guys know you well enough to know when you're being sarcastic and when you're being serious. Crap, even I have a hard time knowing when you've got your smartass meter running. Don't tell this guy he can get a black belt in 2 years, geez. I took TKD for about 6 months and all we ever really did was a lot of kicking and blocking, period. Though I have to say.. breaking my master's arm was really frikin funny! Though he wouldn't sparr with me after that, hmmm wonder why? CHICKEN!!!
 

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As far as TKD goes, it is really impractical in a fight. I've fought my share of TKD black belts and they get destroyed once you take-down. I can groundnpound all day long against a striker.

As for streetfighters, you've got a really good point. Tank Abott once claimed that he had a streetfighting record of 145-5, which doesn't suprise me. But he also has a 9-11-0 MMA record. IF you put a street fighter in a cage with rules (even though there aren't very many) and give him a really talented opponent then he'll get destroyed regardless of size or strength or anything.
 

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yea TKD has one strong point it is GREAT for learning proper form when it comes to kicking and punching, ANd I find it fun making a strict TKD guy tap at, one of my trainers is a 3rd degree in Tang Soo Do and I have made him tap out once or twice
 

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I just think the point of all of this is that this is Mixed martial arts and if you think one style is the best then you're going to get destroyed. Even as a striker, if you want to take tkd to learn proper form, take something else like Muay-thai along side that to figure out where it comes from and how it works.

I do this with my jiu-jitsu and I'm sure that this method works for striking too.
 

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It's all about practical application. You have to figure out consistancies and what is just for show. It's the same in grappling in boxing. Minimalism has always been the key to my fights. I don't throw a punch unless I think it's going to do some damage, I don't shoot in unless I think I'm going to knock him down.

The key too all martial arts is the secrets that are behind it. The secrets are the little things that make each move important. Look beyond the physical form and into what it does in a fight. This is really important, especially in arts that only stress the form it is easy to over look what matters for MMArtists.
 

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From what i gather you are mixing 2 different sports. They may be similar but Street fighting has few rules and can be anything goes where as MMA has rules as well as a mix of alot of MA.
You are never to old you are only as young as you feel. Also alot of good british cage fighters are within the age range of 35 - 49.
 

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From what i gather you are mixing 2 different sports. They may be similar but Street fighting has few rules and can be anything goes where as MMA has rules as well as a mix of alot of MA.
You are never to old you are only as young as you feel. Also alot of good british cage fighters are within the age range of 35 - 49.
Wow, that's surprising that the British fighters can stay in the business so long, or do they just start older. That's pretty cool.

I am mixing 2 sports, but the point is that for both of them you need to have a large body of knowledge and martial arts experience. That's what matters.
 

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Wow, that's surprising that the British fighters can stay in the business so long, or do they just start older. That's pretty cool.

I am mixing 2 sports, but the point is that for both of them you need to have a large body of knowledge and martial arts experience. That's what matters.
One of the reasons they stay in so long is that they have kept the fitness in check and have had years of training and conditioning. And to the second point cage fighting is technical and tactical as you have to study your opponent whereas street fighting is not so technical. And finishes really quickly, cage fighting does not.

What im saying is if a street fighter went against a MMAist on his terms he would win whereas if the situation was turned the MMAist would not have as greater chance. Its like mixing hockey ant football.
 

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Keep forgetting different sports in different cities oops. British hockey is different to American. Ok American football to soccer makes a bit more sense. Or i think so.
 
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