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Each time former PRIDE heavyweight champion Fedor Emelianenko (31-1) adds another win to his already impressive career total, fans from across the world call for the Russian to face the UFC's reigning king.

Emelianenko toppled the previously undefeated Brett Rogers at Saturday night's Strikeforce and M-1 Global co-promotion, "Fedor vs. Rogers," and those requests have already begun again. While the UFC's unwillingness to co-promote has proved an insurmountable roadblock in the past, M-1 Global USA vice president Jerry Millen has a simple solution: do it for free.

"If these guys in the UFC truly wanted to fight Fedor, they'd find a way," Millen recently told MMAjunkie.com Radio (www.mmajunkie.com/radio). "Come to his training camp. Come to Stary Oskol, and we'll do three, five-minute rounds in the ring or the cage. We'll do it for fun.

"If you really want to fight him for competition, and it's not about the money for the guys in the UFC, then tell Brock Lesnar to jump his ass on a plane, take a train, and come to Stary Oskol. If these guys really want to fight Fedor, then come to Stary Oskol and lets get it on there for no money."

UFC president Dana White has often been less-than-complimentary in regards to Emelianenko and Millen's partners at M-1 Global. Some critics of the Russian fighter have suggested Emelianenko's refusal to fight in the UFC was a result of his desire to keep his nearly unblemished record intact.

Millen finds the thought of Emelianenko "ducking" stiff competition laughable.

"[Emelianenko] loves fighting," Millen said. "He loves the competition of it, and he'll fight any comers. That's why when I hear these jerks say, 'He's ducking the UFC. He's afraid of Brock Lesnar' – Frank Mir's like, 'Oh, he's afraid of us' – give me a break. That's the biggest bunch of bull I've ever heard. Fedor's not afraid to fight anybody."

As he always has, Millen maintains the only thing stopping "The Last Emperor" from fighting in the octagon are the terms being offered by the UFC.

"It's got to be a good deal," Millen said. "When you sign with the UFC, most guys sign their soul away. Fedor doesn't have to sign his soul away, number one, because he's at the top of the game, and he's doing very well without signing with the UFC. So he doesn't have to sell his soul. He's the kind of guy that won't sell his soul.

"If you ever see Fedor (in the UFC), if that ever happens, it's going to be a very fair deal."

Millen said he believes the UFC has been great for the sport but that the contract terms offered by the promotion aren't always in the best interest of the organization's athletes.

"The fighters in the UFC are great, but the UFC, to me, is the WWE model," Millen said. "They want to own the guys. They have their own rankings. There's a lot of fighters out there that are undiscovered that don't get a chance to fight in the UFC, so they're not going to get ranked because they're not going to fight the guy that's ranked No. 4.

"The UFC is the Q-tip of MMA. It's great what they've done for the sport, but PRIDE was there before that. Strikeforce, King of the Cage, Cage Rage. There's a lot of promotions out there that helped the sport, and when I hear people say that the UFC has made MMA what it is, the UFC has made MMA what it is in America. Not worldwide."

As a part-owner of M-1 Global, Emelianenko may not ever make a UFC appearance. But Millen said if Lesnar, Mir or any other UFC heavyweight wants to face the current WAMMA heavyweight champion, Emelianenko waits on the other end of trip to Russia.

"I get so sick of hearing, 'Oh, he's afraid,'" Millen said. "That's the biggest bunch of crap I've ever heard. [Emelianenko] is an athlete. He's not afraid of somebody beating him up. He gets punched in the face all the time. What would he be afraid of? Losing? He's not afraid to lose. He's at peace with losing. That's all bull.

"Dana will talk his trash. Brock Lesnar, Frank Mir, they're all trying to goad him. But honestly, [Emelianenko] doesn't listen to any of it. It doesn't affect him. He just does what he does, and if you want to fight him, come on. He'll fight you. Bring it."

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Wow, empty shit talk from Millen, how shocking. I really wish all of this back and forth from both sides would just end and they would find some magical way to get Fedor in the UFC. Anybody with half of a brain knows that none of this type of stuff means anything and isnt helping to achieve anything. Its not about fear or wanting to protect someones legacy, its about dollars and cents. All of the talk from both sides is just silly.
 

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Talk like this from Millen is pointless and stupid. This fight will ONLY happen under the UFC banner with no co-promoting bullsh!t. That means Fedor would need to wake the hell up and leave for the UFC once his contractual obligations for Strikeforce and M-1 are over. However, I truly believe Fedor doesn't even care about a fight with Lesnar. So Fedor will be a slave to M-1 for his entire career and we will miss out on many amazing fights. Oh well. Oh and I HATE Gary Millen...Yes, that's his name.
 

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I agree 100% with him.

There is absolutely no reason whatsoever in the name of God that Fedor needs to sign with the UFC to prove anything. He's beaten the best in the world for the last decade, and beating a guy with a 4-1 record isn't going to do shit for his career, seriously.

It's disgusting how people think Brock will actually do ANYTHING for his career or legacy. Fedor does not need the UFC, the UFC does not need Fedor.

All this "Fedor needs to join the UFC!" stuff is just annoying now. Fedor doesn't need to fight 4-1 guys, Nog AGAIN, Carwin and Mir. Seriously, he does not.

Fedor doesn't care about what the UFC says, yet the UFC (Dana) is constantly stating things about Fedor when he fights.

So, who exactly is sore in the ass here? The one that constantly has to remind everyone that he thinks Fedor is overrated, and has to constantly talk about him when he fights, as to make sure the casual fan listens to him so they don't think the greatest HW in the world is outside of the UFC - or Fedor, who couldn't give two shits about Dana or the UFC, he just fights, he has nothing left to prove.

At the end of the day, Fedor does NOT need the UFC in any way shape or form, and the UFC does not need Fedor, even though Dana sure wants to get him in the UFC, and has to constantly talk about him whenever Fedor fights.
 

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I agree 100% with him.

There is absolutely no reason whatsoever in the name of God that Fedor needs to sign with the UFC to prove anything. He's beaten the best in the world for the last decade, and beating a guy with a 4-1 record isn't going to do shit for his career, seriously.

It's disgusting how people think Brock will actually do ANYTHING for his career or legacy. Fedor does not need the UFC, the UFC does not need Fedor.

All this "Fedor needs to join the UFC!" stuff is just annoying now. Fedor doesn't need to fight 4-1 guys, Nog AGAIN, Carwin and Mir. Seriously, he does not.

Fedor doesn't care about what the UFC says, yet the UFC (Dana) is constantly stating things about Fedor when he fights.

So, who exactly is sore in the ass here? The one that constantly has to remind everyone that he thinks Fedor is overrated, and has to constantly talk about him when he fights, as to make sure the casual fan listens to him so they don't think the greatest HW in the world is outside of the UFC - or Fedor, who couldn't give two shits about Dana or the UFC, he just fights, he has nothing left to prove.

At the end of the day, Fedor does NOT need the UFC in any way shape or form, and the UFC does not need Fedor, even though Dana sure wants to get him in the UFC, and has to constantly talk about him whenever Fedor fights.

Exactly, He has been at the top for so long, and this has been a constant point of debate. It gets tiring listening to the same old thing every time Fedor notches up a win.

I'd rather both M1, and the UFC just ignore each other and focus on their own organisations. This is dragging on and on.
 

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I agree 100% with him.

There is absolutely no reason whatsoever in the name of God that Fedor needs to sign with the UFC to prove anything. He's beaten the best in the world for the last decade, and beating a guy with a 4-1 record isn't going to do shit for his career, seriously.

It's disgusting how people think Brock will actually do ANYTHING for his career or legacy. Fedor does not need the UFC, the UFC does not need Fedor.

All this "Fedor needs to join the UFC!" stuff is just annoying now. Fedor doesn't need to fight 4-1 guys, Nog AGAIN, Carwin and Mir. Seriously, he does not.

Fedor doesn't care about what the UFC says, yet the UFC (Dana) is constantly stating things about Fedor when he fights.

So, who exactly is sore in the ass here? The one that constantly has to remind everyone that he thinks Fedor is overrated, and has to constantly talk about him when he fights, as to make sure the casual fan listens to him so they don't think the greatest HW in the world is outside of the UFC - or Fedor, who couldn't give two shits about Dana or the UFC, he just fights, he has nothing left to prove.

At the end of the day, Fedor does NOT need the UFC in any way shape or form, and the UFC does not need Fedor, even though Dana sure wants to get him in the UFC, and has to constantly talk about him whenever Fedor fights.
Beating Lesnar wouldnt do anything for his career? I dont think that's an accurate statement. It would garner him more $, more fame and more publicity then all his previous fights combined, whether thats fair or not, thats a fact. If its about $, fight 3 fights only, how is that the UFC owning your soul?? Make yourself known to the biggest MMA fanbase in the world, sell silly M1 shirts, hats, DVDs etc etc. I honestly think M1 and Fedor are the ones missing the boat by asking for far too much they are not gonna make near what they would just coming to the UFC. See how quickly the casual fan would jump all over his sack if he came to the UFC and beat Lesnar and a couple others?? It would be insanity and personality or not he would really be the biggest star in MMA (he never has been).

This kind of stuff may not appeal to Fedor but i think the $ appeals to his management, i dont understand how they think they can make more at SF.... and with Fedor fighting once a year.

As for the UFC, they want the best fighters that are also the best draws, thats why Fedor isnt number one on any list to overpay, his skills might be there, but you need a return on investment and he has proven over time he isnt a reliable $ maker.
 

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Beating Lesnar wouldnt do anything for his career? I dont think that's an accurate statement. It would garner him more $, more fame and more publicity then all his previous fights combined, whether thats fair or not, thats a fact. If its about $, fight 3 fights only, how is that the UFC owning your soul?? Make yourself known to the biggest MMA fanbase in the world, sell silly M1 shirts, hats, DVDs etc etc. I honestly think M1 and Fedor are the ones missing the boat by asking for far too much they are not gonna make near what they would just coming to the UFC. See how quickly the casual fan would jump all over his sack if he came to the UFC and beat Lesnar and a couple others?? It would be insanity and personality or not he would really be the biggest star in MMA (he never has been).

This kind of stuff may not appeal to Fedor but i think the $ appeals to his management, i dont understand how they think they can make more at SF.... and with Fedor fighting once a year.

As for the UFC, they want the best fighters that are also the best draws, thats why Fedor isnt number one on any list to overpay, his skills might be there, but you need a return on investment and he has proven over time he isnt a reliable $ maker.
You do realize that over in Russia, Japan, etc, Fedor is one of the, if not THE most popular fighter in the world, right?

The ONLY country that Fedor is not well known is America. Do you think Fedor cares about how he is looked upon in America, when he is looked at as a huge, major star in other countries? Fame has nothing to do with it, he's already 500x more famous than Brock is if you compare his status in other countries to what Brock has here in America. Fedor carried the torch in the Beijing Olympics, for crying out loud.

Money? The UFC was going to pay him around 1.5 Mill a fight a while back, leaps and bounds beyond what even Brock makes. Trust me, they WANT Fedor, they will pay double what any current UFC fighter makes.

Fedor is making bank right now, he has been his entire career. Also, with a Strikeforce deal, he is able to fight in multiple places, such as Dream, so he has the chance of fighting in other places, thus making even more money.

So, your points:

Fame - Fedor is more famous in the WORLD than Brock wishes he could ever be. Brock is more famous in America, that is all.

Money - Fedor is already making loads of money, he does not need the UFC to do that.

Legacy - Fedor is already considered to be the greatest mixed martial artist of all time. Do you think he really cares if some casual American fans think he is not? No, he does not.
 

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Look at who their fighters are fighting against, its mostly those in South/North America. All of their fights also occur in America. What happens if you happen to live in other corners of the world?


Compare M1 and UFC top fighters, look at the countries of origin (flags) of opponents. Also notice Anderson Silva's 3 of 4 losses came from Japanese fighters, this shows that the international circuit is very good albiet not as well known to casual American MMA fans.

M1 fighters

Fedor Emelianenko



Gegard Mousasi



UFC fighters

Georges St-Pierre



Anderson Silva



Brock Lesnar




Firstly Fedor has 20% ownership of M1-Global, the company started at around the same time as UFC. Its goal has always been to have the best fighters from around the world to compete. The UFC is more localised in America.

Second, M1-Global has a very strong presence in Russia, Europe and Asia. UFC doesnt.

Thirdly, co-promotion means that UFC promotes within America while M1 promotes in areas they already have a foot print i.e. Russia, Asia and Europe. Withought co-promotion, Fedors fans especially in his home country would not be able to see his fights.

Fourth, Co-promotion means that all profits, LOSSES and RISKS are shared 50-50.

Finally, Affliction was bought out by the UFC and instead of having its fighters fight on generous existing terms, they thought it easier to dismantle the company and renew the contracts under more stringent and restrictive UFC terms.
 

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You do realize that over in Russia, Japan, etc, Fedor is one of the, if not THE most popular fighter in the world, right?

The ONLY country that Fedor is not well known is America. Do you think Fedor cares about how he is looked upon in America, when he is looked at as a huge, major star in other countries? Fame has nothing to do with it, he's already 500x more famous than Brock is if you compare his status in other countries to what Brock has here in America. Fedor carried the torch in the Beijing Olympics, for crying out loud.

Money? The UFC was going to pay him around 1.5 Mill a fight a while back, leaps and bounds beyond what even Brock makes. Trust me, they WANT Fedor, they will pay double what any current UFC fighter makes.

Fedor is making bank right now, he has been his entire career. Also, with a Strikeforce deal, he is able to fight in multiple places, such as Dream, so he has the chance of fighting in other places, thus making even more money.

So, your points:

Fame - Fedor is more famous in the WORLD than Brock wishes he could ever be. Brock is more famous in America, that is all.

Money - Fedor is already making loads of money, he does not need the UFC to do that.

Legacy - Fedor is already considered to be the greatest mixed martial artist of all time. Do you think he really cares if some casual American fans think he is not? No, he does not.
To say that Fedor is more popular worldwide is a bold statement and can never be substantiated. Like it or not Pro wrestling is a huge sport throughout the world and Brock was the face of that sport for some time. The UFC is also a world wide organization and once again , like it or not, Brock is the HW Champ of that outfit. Hell if you just goggle either fighter on the world wide web, Brock has nearly twice as many hits. More info translates to more well known.
If its not about the money, than why is it so important for Fedor to remain essentially a free agent to fight in what ever promo he wants to make even more money?
Fedor is not hands down the greatest mma fighter of all time, that too is debatable. Without a doubt he is top 3, maybe even top 2 IMHO.
As for this constant quandary, its laughable at this point,. Dana says they (UFC) offer Fedor everything but the kitchen sink (co-promotion) and Fedor, with M-1 turn it down. This guy Millen says , "let's do it for free" which is an utterly ridiculous statement. This isnt Rocky V with a fight going outside the corner bar in South Philly. Both promotions are ultimately a business and the truth of this fight EVER happening lies somewhere in between what Dana and Millen are saying. Dana has taken his fighters over to Pride in the past, so a deal is not ever out of the question.
Here's an idea: Pay Fedor a one fight deal for the 1.5 million or whatever was offered. He's also eligible for the standard fight bonuses. UFC promotes the fight on a UFC card, Fedor can wear and hang all the M-1 logos he likes for his fight, hell maybe even put a logo somewhere on the cage. Have 5 total fights on the PPV card, and M-1 will receive 20% of the PPV revenue for having Fedor's name on the card. Winner takes both belts.
I agree that this fight doesn't have to happen for Fedor, he is really comfortable where he is and it looks as if Strikeforce has a few fights lined up for the HW's, which makes it highly unlikely at this point. The fans want it, and that is the fans across the world. (On a side note, Fedor punches so fast and with an enormous amount of power I just want to see him catch Brock with one of those looping right crosses, just once.)
 

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To say that Fedor is more popular worldwide is a bold statement and can never be substantiated. Like it or not Pro wrestling is a huge sport throughout the world and Brock was the face of that sport for some time. The UFC is also a world wide organization and once again , like it or not, Brock is the HW Champ of that outfit. Hell if you just goggle either fighter on the world wide web, Brock has nearly twice as many hits. More info translates to more well known.
If its not about the money, than why is it so important for Fedor to remain essentially a free agent to fight in what ever promo he wants to make even more money?
Fedor is not hands down the greatest mma fighter of all time, that too is debatable. Without a doubt he is top 3, maybe even top 2 IMHO.
As for this constant quandary, its laughable at this point,. Dana says they (UFC) offer Fedor everything but the kitchen sink (co-promotion) and Fedor, with M-1 turn it down. This guy Millen says , "let's do it for free" which is an utterly ridiculous statement. This isnt Rocky V with a fight going outside the corner bar in South Philly. Both promotions are ultimately a business and the truth of this fight EVER happening lies somewhere in between what Dana and Millen are saying. Dana has taken his fighters over to Pride in the past, so a deal is not ever out of the question.
Here's an idea: Pay Fedor a one fight deal for the 1.5 million or whatever was offered. He's also eligible for the standard fight bonuses. UFC promotes the fight on a UFC card, Fedor can wear and hang all the M-1 logos he likes for his fight, hell maybe even put a logo somewhere on the cage. Have 5 total fights on the PPV card, and M-1 will receive 20% of the PPV revenue for having Fedor's name on the card. Winner takes both belts.
I agree that this fight doesn't have to happen for Fedor, he is really comfortable where he is and it looks as if Strikeforce has a few fights lined up for the HW's, which makes it highly unlikely at this point. The fans want it, and that is the fans across the world. (On a side note, Fedor punches so fast and with an enormous amount of power I just want to see him catch Brock with one of those looping right crosses, just once.)
Has Brock ever carried the Olympic Torch? Has Brock had the president of his country go and see his fights? Do you think Brock Lesnar is more popular in Japan or Russia than Fedor is? Because the answer to all of these questions is: No.

Fedor is a great deal more popular in Russia, Japan, etc, than Brock is. People might "know of" Brock over in these places, but he is far, far less popular.

As for money, Fedor is comfortable where he is at. The UFC is not giving Fedor and his management 100% what they want, thus they are not signing a contract. The reason is that they can get all they want from other places, and they do not need the UFC, so they are not going to make a change in what they want, when they don't need to.

As far as him being the greatest mixed martial artist of all time, you would be very hard pressed to find anyone who has followed his career and MMA in general for years to say otherwise. He has done things no one else in the sport has, that is including a decade long win streak.
 

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Pretty conflicted about it...

Have to side with UFC though...they built the MMA scene in the North America and bought out Pride which was their chief competitor. 80% of the world's best fighters are in the UFC so what does that say...

If we as fans petition enough I think Fedor vs Brock will happpen...free, PPV, whatever...
 

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To say that Fedor is more popular worldwide is a bold statement and can never be substantiated. Like it or not Pro wrestling is a huge sport throughout the world and Brock was the face of that sport for some time. The UFC is also a world wide organization and once again , like it or not, Brock is the HW Champ of that outfit. Hell if you just goggle either fighter on the world wide web, Brock has nearly twice as many hits. More info translates to more well known.
If its not about the money, than why is it so important for Fedor to remain essentially a free agent to fight in what ever promo he wants to make even more money?
Fedor is not hands down the greatest mma fighter of all time, that too is debatable. Without a doubt he is top 3, maybe even top 2 IMHO.
As for this constant quandary, its laughable at this point,. Dana says they (UFC) offer Fedor everything but the kitchen sink (co-promotion) and Fedor, with M-1 turn it down. This guy Millen says , "let's do it for free" which is an utterly ridiculous statement. This isnt Rocky V with a fight going outside the corner bar in South Philly. Both promotions are ultimately a business and the truth of this fight EVER happening lies somewhere in between what Dana and Millen are saying. Dana has taken his fighters over to Pride in the past, so a deal is not ever out of the question.
Here's an idea: Pay Fedor a one fight deal for the 1.5 million or whatever was offered. He's also eligible for the standard fight bonuses. UFC promotes the fight on a UFC card, Fedor can wear and hang all the M-1 logos he likes for his fight, hell maybe even put a logo somewhere on the cage. Have 5 total fights on the PPV card, and M-1 will receive 20% of the PPV revenue for having Fedor's name on the card. Winner takes both belts.
I agree that this fight doesn't have to happen for Fedor, he is really comfortable where he is and it looks as if Strikeforce has a few fights lined up for the HW's, which makes it highly unlikely at this point. The fans want it, and that is the fans across the world. (On a side note, Fedor punches so fast and with an enormous amount of power I just want to see him catch Brock with one of those looping right crosses, just once.)
Come on man. China has like over 1.3 billion people vs Americas 300 million-ish. As Carson pointed out, he carried the Olympic torch! You do also realize that the population of Japan is 130 million alone! Massive for such a small land space. In terms of sheer numbers, Fedor is easily more well known around the world. The ONLY benefit for Fedor from fighting Brock is his fame stateside. It's 100% clear Fedor cares nothing about the US and rightly so. Like Brock gives a f**k about his perception in the east. And besides, 5.5 million hits watching him doing Rogers in is not exactly harming his fame.

Yes. I want to see him fight Brock. I'm sure we would all like to see it. But that's it. A nice bonus for us fight fans and certainly not something Fedor HAS to do to be recognized as #1. More people in the world rank him as #1 than not. End of argument.
 

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Finally, Affliction was bought out by the UFC and instead of having its fighters fight on generous existing terms, they thought it easier to dismantle the company and renew the contracts under more stringent and restrictive UFC terms.
Of course they did. The "generous terms" are part of the reason that Affliction was loosing money as an MMA promotion. You cant just give fighters a ton of money because they can throw a punch! They have to bring the money in first, and they proved to not be able to do so!
 

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You do realize that over in Russia, Japan, etc, Fedor is one of the, if not THE most popular fighter in the world, right?

The ONLY country that Fedor is not well known is America. Do you think Fedor cares about how he is looked upon in America, when he is looked at as a huge, major star in other countries? Fame has nothing to do with it, he's already 500x more famous than Brock is if you compare his status in other countries to what Brock has here in America. Fedor carried the torch in the Beijing Olympics, for crying out loud.

Money? The UFC was going to pay him around 1.5 Mill a fight a while back, leaps and bounds beyond what even Brock makes. Trust me, they WANT Fedor, they will pay double what any current UFC fighter makes.

Fedor is making bank right now, he has been his entire career. Also, with a Strikeforce deal, he is able to fight in multiple places, such as Dream, so he has the chance of fighting in other places, thus making even more money.

So, your points:

Fame - Fedor is more famous in the WORLD than Brock wishes he could ever be. Brock is more famous in America, that is all.

Money - Fedor is already making loads of money, he does not need the UFC to do that.

Legacy - Fedor is already considered to be the greatest mixed martial artist of all time. Do you think he really cares if some casual American fans think he is not? No, he does not.
Sorry. But the numbers dont lie, Fedor isnt even close to the most popular MMA fighter in the world. He cant even compete with weak UFC cards for PPVs. There is a reason every org he was with went broke. Yoy can say it til you are blue in the face, doesnt change the fact Brock made more $ then Fedor in the WWE, had more worldwide exposure and is bigger draw now then Fedor EVER was (most popular PPV MMA card in history was headlined by who??).

Fedor might be the best, but he isnt even close to the most popular. He may be "popular" in all of europe and japan like you say... then why dont they buy his PPVs?? Fact is, he cant out sell the UFCs 2nd tier stars like Rich Franklin, nevermind Brock, GSP or Machida. You seriously misleading yourself if you think Fedor is more famous then Brock, MMA was far from mainstream when he was dominating and most of the fans now werent fans then and have no idea who he is. Even the new ones in europe.... The UFC offered him the most because they could possiblely make him one of the most popular, there marketing is that good. I would venture to say if Bobby Lashley signed with the UFC they could make him more popular and sell more PPVs then Fedor ever has within a year, they just know WTF they are doing and Pride, Affliction and Strikeforce straight up have no clue, which is why they spend too much on Fedor and fold....

BTW even for a few years ago... Chuck Liddell is MUCH more popular around the world and a bigger draw then Fedor.... so is Kimbo Slice...

I do like how most ppl seem to think europe and asia are ahead of the curve and know so much more then we do.... yet cant support a high level organization in either continent and keep it profitable... sounds popular to me. Next your gonna tell me Fedor is more famous then Stone Cold or The Rock or Hulk Hogan.... do you see how Brock was living before MMA? lol he made more $ then almost everybody in MMA already, a mansion in the woods and the $ to pay for $150k training camps... thinking any MMArtist from the past was more well known around the world then any WWE top star is a falsehood.

Again, by far Oscar Robinson is the best basketball player ever... does the average fan know/believe this?? NO. Why?? Because he wasnt around in the heyday of the NBA so players like Jordan, Magic, Bird etc are almost always considered the best ever without mention of Oscar even tho he averaged a triple double one year and stupid better then LBJ numbers this entire career. If you miss the boat on the mainstream popularity of MMA believe me, it will effect his legacy 100% among the new fans, who btw are already the majority and will only continue to be a larger and larger portion of MMA fans. Do you think if he had the chance Oscar would come and dominate guys like Jordan etc?? Of course, he would love it, unfortunately the eras are too far apart and he couldnt, but Fedor can.
 
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Sorry. But the numbers dont lie, Fedor isnt even close to the most popular MMA fighter in the world. He cant even compete with weak UFC cards for PPVs. There is a reason every org he was with went broke. Yoy can say it til you are blue in the face, doesnt change the fact Brock made more $ then Fedor in the WWE, had more worldwide exposure and is bigger draw now then Fedor EVER was (most popular PPV MMA card in history was headlined by who??).

Fedor might be the best, but he isnt even close to the most popular. He may be "popular" in all of europe and japan like you say... then why dont they buy his PPVs?? Fact is, he cant out sell the UFCs 2nd tier stars like Rich Franklin, nevermind Brock, GSP or Machida. You seriously misleading yourself if you think Fedor is more famous then Brock, MMA was far from mainstream when he was dominating and most of the fans now werent fans then and have no idea who he is. Even the new ones in europe.... The UFC offered him the most because they could possiblely make him one of the most popular, there marketing is that good. I would venture to say if Bobby Lashley signed with the UFC they could make him more popular and sell more PPVs then Fedor ever has within a year, they just know WTF they are doing and Pride, Affliction and Strikeforce straight up have no clue, which is why they spend too much on Fedor and fold....

BTW even for a few years ago... Chuck Liddell is MUCH more popular around the world and a bigger draw then Fedor.... so is Kimbo Slice...

I do like how most ppl seem to think europe and asia are ahead of the curve and know so much more then we do.... yet cant support a high level organization in either continent and keep it profitable... sounds popular to me. Next your gonna tell me Fedor is more famous then Stone Cold or The Rock or Hulk Hogan.... do you see how Brock was living before MMA? lol he made more $ then almost everybody in MMA already, a mansion in the woods and the $ to pay for $150k training camps... thinking any MMArtist from the past was more well known around the world then any WWE top star is a falsehood.
The MMA artist from the past..... I think you are seriously underestimating how far Fedor's popularity extends. I know you may not see lots of it as you live in the states. I work in Kazakhstan, Turkmenistan and Russia he is like a national hero in all of the above countries, not to mention the bundle of other post soviet countries.

Sure some other orgs have had a hard time recently keeping float, but that has nothing to do with Fedor's popularity more with the business plans they have implemented.


I think you may be a touch off the mark when you downplay his popularity like that. Think outside the box you are only looking at one small piece of the picture.
 

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The MMA artist from the past..... I think you are seriously underestimating how far Fedor's popularity extends. I know you may not see lots of it as you live in the states. I work in Kazakhstan, Turkmenistan and Russia he is like a national hero in all of the above countries, not to mention the bundle of other post soviet countries.

Sure some other orgs have had a hard time recently keeping float, but that has nothing to do with Fedor's popularity more with the business plans they have implemented.


I think you may be a touch off the mark when you downplay his popularity like that. Think outside the box you are only looking at one small piece of the picture.
Again, words are nice, where are the numbers to show this popularity?? A billion ppl in China love him, all of Russia and all of Japan yet he cant do over 300k in PPVs?? Guess they love him til they have to put $ down?? The only proof i see is lacklustre PPV numbers and organizations going broke giving in to his terms. CBS might give SF another chance, but if the numbers dont get drastically better (i doubt they will) it would be bad business to try to keep a saturday night primetime slot for those weak numbers. SF will get dumped from CBS and not to able to pay Fedor, bank on it.
 

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Dana's ass just hurts because he can't have fedor.

For once I want to see the UFC management and friends put up or shut up. If they keep saying its all about the fans and for the good of the sport they will co-promote like other have done for them in the past.
 
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