[sicc]

Why should Anderson be the one getting all the shit for his antics?

Why is Joe Silva and Dana making weak fights for the best P4P in the world? He's obviously bored with his oponents so why not make some fights people actually want to see. Yea I know, Belfort was hurt but so what, bring in an awesome LHW to fight Anderson or even a HW.

There is clearly nothing for Silva at 185 so maybe instead of Dana bitching and crying he can just give Silva an actual fight.

Look what happens when they give Silva opponents that don't bore him: Franklin, Hendo, Griffin, Sandman, ETC. He knocks them the F out and makes an entertaining fight.

Stop insulting him by giving him opponents like Maia.

 

[BobbyCooper]

I totally agree with you! :thumbsup:

Good post!

The only person Dana should blame is himself!

 

[hixxy]

I kinda agree, but no one was saying this BEFORE the Maia fight..

 

[Finnsidious]

Well I partially agree, Silva does seem to do better when he fights bigger threats, but you seem to be forgetting that he was supposed to fight Belfort, and then after Belfort was injured Sonnen was the first choice to replace him.

It's not like Dana planned on having him fight Maia from the beginning, he had some injuries, so he did the best he could.

Silva knew that too, it doesn't give him an excuse to act like an idiot in the ring and hide behind the referee. We would all love to see him fight the best guys, but sometimes shit happens, act like a goddam champion no matter who you are fighting.

 

[Spec0688]

I kinda agree, but no one was saying this BEFORE the Maia fight..

Actually everyone was saying what a demolishing it will be, No one though Maia would make it past the first 2 rounds. I think the problem with Silva is that he needs to be motivated, Look at all his lackluster performances. They are all against fighters who have no right being in there with him.

 

[Hiro]

Yeah poor old Anderson, getting fed a can like Demian Maia. If he wants to go in and humiliate the guy for a few rounds, and then refuse to fight for the rest, hide behind the ref etc, then blame Dana, because poor Anderson is just bored.

Bullshit. Demian Maia stepped up when Belfort got injured, the UFC didn't really have a choice and Maia took on the challenge. That's no excuse for Silva to act the way he did, not so much because he was a disrespectful pr1ck, but because he ran away for the rest of the fight. It's an utter disgrace and Anderson is the only one to blame. His arrogance has reached a whole new level.

No one expected Maia to win but no one expected Anderson to pull that clown shit. The worst case should have been a dominating UD or a finish against an obviously outclassed and perhaps undeserving opponent who stepped up when Belfort got injured. That's all it should have been. Instead Anderson causes all this shit and somehow Dana and Joe Silva are to blame?

Who's the one who wont fight for the 205 title? Anderson
Who's the one who acts like a clown in fights at MW? Anderson
Who's the one who blames Maia for what went on? Anderson

This shit is not the UFC's fault. There's no excuses.

 

[Rusko]

I'm actualy with you on this one, Silva could do more, but he didnt have to he was in no danger zone.

And that clowning is out of boredom for sure.

 

[Diokhan]

So its Dana's fault that Silva can't finish "weak" opponents in 5 rounds? He kept ducking the rematch with Hendo and wasn't too hyped up about the fight with Vitor either (go see Soares' interviews about both match ups) and kept talking about fights at HW etc.

If anything Silva should have made a statement and knock Maia out in round one. If he can't handle a 185 pound jitsu guy in 5 rounds how do you think he would handle those 265+ pound beasts like Mir, Carwin and Lesnar? Yes he has the tools to put up a fight with pretty much anyone, but if he can't finish the guys on his own weight class convincingly why would Dana setup a match bitween him and a guy 2 weight classes above either?
Don't blame Dana for bad match ups. If Silva actually wants those super match ups he needs to earn them. Who the **** would promote a superfight bitween top LHW/HW/WW vs. Silva after couple of these bs fights he has done at MW?

Still nothing but <3 for his talent, but he can only blame his own clowning for getting boo'ed at by the fans and even Dana.

 

[Hiro]

I hope Dana White has learned his lesson

Either give Anderson big fights even though he wont fight Machida and says the MW title is his responsibility, or suffer consequences.

If Dana dares pull a stunt like that again, then Silva has a license to spoil the show, embaress the UFC, and embaress MMA.

:sarcastic12:

 

[No_Mercy]

Here's the flip side. You gotta look at it from every perspective. In theory lets say you are the champ. You have the following on the line...

- MW Champ belt
- longest streak at six breaking Tito and Matt Hughes record
- win fight bonus
- sponsorships
- most importantly your legacy

Argument is if it's for your legacy and p4p status then put away your opponents right? Ali is the greatest, but didn't win with all knock outs.

So it's easier said then done especially in MMA against a highly decorated BJJ practitioner. One wrong move and you throw everything you've trained for your entire life. Showboating aside it's reserved for extremely talented individuals who can back it up. But I actually think it's 50% tactic and 50% just boredom. Did Anderson showboat against Leben, Rich Franklin, Hendo, Lutter, Nate, Irvin or even Griffin...they all came to fight and he put em way viciously. He knocked down Maia how many times, but didn't want to over committ.

Is it a coincidence he did the same tactic against another BJJ specialist in Thales. The Cote match up was part of his strategy and he was landing strikes.

SO tell me would you play it safe all five rounds, go ballz out try to win as flashy as possible EVERY SINGLE TIME and eventually get a BIG L, or mix it up.

All things considering I think Silva gets a lot of flack for nothing. Dude is winning...in IMPRESSIVE fashion.

I agree it is mainly the UFC's responsibility. It's too bad cuz Vitor was slated to fight em and in my opinion that would have been fireworks no doubt. Dana shouldn't be effected by the crowd's response. More than 75% of the times crowd always boos cuz they don't know squat about the technicalities of fighting. Go watch Youtube with the brawlers then.

 

[T.Bone]

Why should Anderson be the one getting all the shit for his antics?

Why is Joe Silva and Dana making weak fights for the best P4P in the world? He's obviously bored with his oponents so why not make some fights people actually want to see. Yea I know, Belfort was hurt but so what, bring in an awesome LHW to fight Anderson or even a HW.

There is clearly nothing for Silva at 185 so maybe instead of Dana bitching and crying he can just give Silva an actual fight.

Look what happens when they give Silva opponents that don't bore him: Franklin, Hendo, Griffin, Sandman, ETC. He knocks them the F out and makes an entertaining fight.

Stop insulting him by giving him opponents like Maia.

I agree Silva needs more challenging opposition, but I don't see why you think Maia's an insult.

Maia was probably a more legit threat than Franklin and Griffin and he's certainly a more legit opponent than James Irvine due to the fact that they're all strikers. The only difference is those fighters were willing to play right into Silva's game and stand with him, they were also willing to get knocked out.

Maia is as much to blame for the fight as Silva is, neither really engaged. Maybe Silva could've finished it but Maia could've done a lot more aswell.

IMO Silva was disrespectful and should've done more to finish but at the same time Maia had nothing to offer.

 

[Nefilim777]

I agree to a point, but in fairness, if Silva is so much better then he shoulda just got Maia in the clinch, delivered some death-knees a la Franklin and ended it there and then. Instead he chose to give us a capoeira/dance demonstration for fifteen minutes and then do nothing for ten. I'm a fan of Silva, but the lack of respect last night was almost unforgivable.

 

[Liddellianenko]

I kinda agree, but no one was saying this BEFORE the Maia fight..

Actually I did

http://www.mmaforum.com/ufc/71834-belfort-ill-do-whatever-ufc-wants-2.html#post1115496

Please Damone, Maia poses ZERO threat to Anderson, this fight will either be a repeat of the flopfest that was Anderson Vs. Leites or a more brutal repeat of Marquardt vs Maia. Maia simply does not have the wrestling or upper body strength to take it where his advantage lies, against a HUGE fast MW with good TDD like Anderson.

Vitor on the other hand poses a serious threat within Anderson's realm. Anderson would still be the favorite, but NO ONE can stand a flurry of half a dozen full bodied punches on the chin within a second. Even iron-chinned Wanderlei back in the day, or Franklin or Lindland... all guys with solid chins.

And so did a bunch of others. I agree completely with the OP, this fight should NEVER have happened. Dana and Joe Silva need to stop feeding Anderson these overrated one-dimensional pillow punchers/brawlers like Griffin, Leites, Cote and Maia that we just have to admire for their "heart" when they are nowhere near the level or style that a guy like Silva deserves to fight.

 

[Hiro]

Actually I did

http://www.mmaforum.com/ufc/71834-belfort-ill-do-whatever-ufc-wants-2.html#post1115496



And so did a bunch of others. I agree completely with the OP, this fight should NEVER have happened. Dana and Joe Silva need to stop feeding Anderson these overrated one-dimensional pillow punchers/brawlers like Griffin, Leites, Cote and Maia that we just have to admire for their "heart" when they are nowhere near the level or style that a guy like Silva deserves to fight.

Do you guys seriously believe Dana and Joe Silva should take the blame for what went on last night?

Who does Silva deserve to fight? Forrest is former LHW champ, beat Rampage and Shogun, what more do you want? Anderson wont fight Machida. He was due to fight Belfort but he got injured, and Maia was the best they had to offer. Would you rather he just didn't fight? Seriously, Belfort getting injured is why Maia was in there, does that justify ruining a very important show for the UFC, embaressing the whole organisation and the sport?

Such a lame excuse for what he did.

 

[Toxic]

Why should Anderson be the one getting all the shit for his antics?

Why is Joe Silva and Dana making weak fights for the best P4P in the world? He's obviously bored with his oponents so why not make some fights people actually want to see. Yea I know, Belfort was hurt but so what, bring in an awesome LHW to fight Anderson or even a HW.

There is clearly nothing for Silva at 185 so maybe instead of Dana bitching and crying he can just give Silva an actual fight.

Look what happens when they give Silva opponents that don't bore him: Franklin, Hendo, Griffin, Sandman, ETC. He knocks them the F out and makes an entertaining fight.

Stop insulting him by giving him opponents like Maia.

This kind of stuff angers me to to no end. I don;t care who Anderson is if he wants to be able to pick fights that interest him then he needs to relinquish his belt. Tito Ortiz was once the dominant champ and a fight with Chuck Lidell didn't interest him, should he have been allowed to continue to duck Chuck because the fight didn't interest him? Maybe Sonnen and Belfort fail to inerest him to, what do you do if you have a mw champ that refuses to actually fight MW's and instead runs and dances? You cannot hold a division hostage at the whim of a single egomaniac I don't care what his P4P ranking is.

 

[Can.Opener]

So the gist of this thread is that Silva is just so good he can be a disrespectful grade A showboating asshole, and shit all over our sport and his 'inferior' opponents.. and we should blame management? Please.

A disrespectful display of everything he supposedly stands for as a supreme mixed martial artist. Farkn jackass.

 

[Terror Kovenant]

I don't buy this crap. If Anderson was so bored and Maia was so out of he league then he should have KO'd him in under two minutes. If he was soooo bored then he should prove it the man way and absolutely walk through his opponent instead of putting on a travesty. Maia was given the shot due to the other two contenders being injured, hey it happens, the UFC has a business to run and needs to put on fights, a real fighter would still be happy to be getting in there and destroying someone. I don't care what skills he has, he does not have the heart of a fighter. If he wants to be challenged then fine, strip his MW title, put him in the HW division and let Brock pound him to dust

 

[punchbag]

Why should Anderson be the one getting all the shit for his antics?

Why is Joe Silva and Dana making weak fights for the best P4P in the world? He's obviously bored with his oponents so why not make some fights people actually want to see. Yea I know, Belfort was hurt but so what, bring in an awesome LHW to fight Anderson or even a HW.

There is clearly nothing for Silva at 185 so maybe instead of Dana bitching and crying he can just give Silva an actual fight.

Look what happens when they give Silva opponents that don't bore him: Franklin, Hendo, Griffin, Sandman, ETC. He knocks them the F out and makes an entertaining fight.

Stop insulting him by giving him opponents like Maia.

Great post, surely the UFC must have realised that Maia was no match at all for Anderson standing,instead of relying on the possibility that Maia may be able to hold him down long enough to pull off the sub. During the fight it looked like Anderson was playing with Maia because he knew he was so much better in this area, e.g kicking his hands whilst Maia was on his back, putting his chin in the air and his hands on the floor, telling Maia to hit him. Apparently Dana went up to Andersons corner shouting at him to stop playing around, but it looked like Anderson was kind of taking pity on Maia and could have finished him if he wanted to. The UFC should just give him Wanderlei/G.s.p as at least it will be a fairer fight, instead of an absolute mismatch. Respect to Maia for putting his all into it.

 

[Hiro]

So the gist of this thread is that Silva is just so good he can be a disrespectful grade A showboating asshole, and shit all over our sport and his 'inferior' opponents.. and we should blame management? Please

Exactly, what is wrong with people?

This depicts me when I read some of the replies in this thread:

 

[Squirrelfighter]

This kind of stuff angers me to to no end. I don;t care who Anderson is if he wants to be able to pick fights that interest him then he needs to relinquish his belt. Tito Ortiz was once the dominant champ and a fight with Chuck Lidell didn't interest him, should he have been allowed to continue to duck Chuck because the fight didn't interest him? Maybe Sonnen and Belfort fail to inerest him to, what do you do if you have a mw champ that refuses to actually fight MW's and instead runs and dances? You cannot hold a division hostage at the whim of a single egomaniac I don't care what his P4P ranking is.

WHAT! Are you seriously comparing Anderson Silva tooling an entire division and being uninterested in fighting lesser fighters to Ortiz not wanting to fight Liddel because Tito, Chuck, Dana, and everyone everywhere knew he'd get demolished? Those are completely different situations.

While Anderson's behavior wasn't exactly humble. I wasn't surprised. Anderson fights BJJ guys, Anderson makes the whole fight into a joke because they refuse to stand with him. Does that make him an egomaniacal, showboating, prick? Sure. But he's absolutely unbeatable at 185. Tito never ever was unbeatable.