Most Effective Grappling Style
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Wrestling because they have well rounded takedowns and all you have to do is rein down punches from on top
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Although the bulk my personal background is Freestyle Wrestling (Some BJJ, Kenpo, and lots of Greco-Roman tourneys), I have to say BJJ for one simple reason: BJJ is by far the discipline that is most comfortable fighting from one's back. This is huge. Wrestlers, despite endless hours of MMA training, still occasionally suffer from the wrestling stigma when they are on their backs. They've been taught for years that this is a bad place to be, and it takes an immense amount of "deprogramming" for a wrestler to acquire a taste for fighting from their back.
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Yeah, the only style that addresses fighting agressively from your back is really BJJ, but JJJ and ***** can be used just as effectively.
BJJ teaches the closed guard and different forms of the guard, which is one of the biggest things that wrestling lacks in MMA.
BJJ teaches the closed guard and different forms of the guard, which is one of the biggest things that wrestling lacks in MMA.
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Kameleon said:
Ya Andrei Arlovski uses *****, But a better fighter in ***** is Fedor... lol.
I don't think Hayato Sakurai uses jjj. He did Shoot Kickboxing and Shooto. but i dont know about jjj. but maybe i'm wrong.
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Well, I still think that JJJ is the best overall, but there is no HUGE fighters that use it, so no one recgonizes it as the best style. It's a shame really.
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bjj hands down is the best ground style
for 1 simple reason- fighting from the bottom!
JJJ is a good all round style but BJJ is better on the ground
and muay thai has better strikes and greco/freestyle has better takedowns
so wats the point?
for 1 simple reason- fighting from the bottom!
JJJ is a good all round style but BJJ is better on the ground
and muay thai has better strikes and greco/freestyle has better takedowns
so wats the point?
Freestyle Wrestler & BJJ
In my opinion Brazilian Ju-Jitsu and Freestyle wrestling work the best. Japanese Ju-Jitsu is great but it has some flaws and that is why Mitsuyo Maeda came to Brazil in the 20th century to help recreate Ju-Jitsu. He first introduced it to the Gracies clan and they have helped him re-make Ju-Jitsu to what it is today, Brazilian Ju-Jitsu. They tweaked it up and it has proven to work better than original Ju-Jitsu. Freestyle Wrestling is also great. Taking down opponents, sprawling, moving them around, etc. Overall it's great to learn. Every mixed martial artist nowadays should learn any type of Ju-Jitsu and Freestyle wrestling, then work on submissions specifically. Grappling is the 2nd key to success in a fight. Number 1 is standup, 2 is grappling, and 3 is finishing which is usually submissions.
In my opinion Brazilian Ju-Jitsu and Freestyle wrestling work the best. Japanese Ju-Jitsu is great but it has some flaws and that is why Mitsuyo Maeda came to Brazil in the 20th century to help recreate Ju-Jitsu. He first introduced it to the Gracies clan and they have helped him re-make Ju-Jitsu to what it is today, Brazilian Ju-Jitsu. They tweaked it up and it has proven to work better than original Ju-Jitsu. Freestyle Wrestling is also great. Taking down opponents, sprawling, moving them around, etc. Overall it's great to learn. Every mixed martial artist nowadays should learn any type of Ju-Jitsu and Freestyle wrestling, then work on submissions specifically. Grappling is the 2nd key to success in a fight. Number 1 is standup, 2 is grappling, and 3 is finishing which is usually submissions.
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I don't see Karo's name on Bjj.org. It is most likely that he did do some sort of cross-training. He is Gokor Chivichyans star pupil, who in turn was also trained by Gene LeBell. However, I know that LeBell spent a lot of time training with the Machados (he even mentions so in his book). Neither is listed at bjj.org.
Wrstling In MMA
The proper term is Greco Roman not Roman Greco and it differs greatly from Freestyle in its limitation of allowing the use of the legs for offense or defense.
Freestyle wrestling encompasses all of the techniques of Greco Roman and allows the use of the legs, so there's really no reason to list both.
Freestyle wrestling and BJJ run neck and neck for first place in my opinion. It just depends on the competitor. If the freestyle wrestler only uses freestyle wrestling technique (no natural fighting techniques like striking) then he would lose to a BJJ competitor probably by a submission, since wrestlers don't train submissions.
Interesting thread. Congrats on starting it.
Ray Mardo
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The proper term is Greco Roman not Roman Greco and it differs greatly from Freestyle in its limitation of allowing the use of the legs for offense or defense.
Freestyle wrestling encompasses all of the techniques of Greco Roman and allows the use of the legs, so there's really no reason to list both.
Freestyle wrestling and BJJ run neck and neck for first place in my opinion. It just depends on the competitor. If the freestyle wrestler only uses freestyle wrestling technique (no natural fighting techniques like striking) then he would lose to a BJJ competitor probably by a submission, since wrestlers don't train submissions.
Interesting thread. Congrats on starting it.
Ray Mardo
http://www.ultimatefightingchampionship.com
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