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Tito or Shamrock..?

My prediction for this fight is Tito a By disgraceful beat down and knockout..!
The Ultimate Fighter 3 show exposed what I have always known and always said about Shamrock, "That Ken is more hype than fight..!" From the begining of the show Tito showed what a ultimate fighter mind set is all about. He embrased those he chosed with a team spirit and openly and genuinely shared his training philosiphy, giving everything he could in a short time frame. Everything he did, from the expert coaches he bought in to the personal pointers and suggestion he gave to each and every fighter on his team, was done in a professional matter and aimed at bring out the very best in eachone.. Ken Shamrock was Like his fighting -flat, and in my oppinion uncaring. Every decision he made was a mirror image of his training and fighting philosiphy, Flat, unprepared and not to well calculated..! ( Just look at his assistant coaching team) This is a guy who brags about having fighters and about his Lions Den Gym. He talks about respect and yet he gives none. At times he appeared lost and unknowing and gave his team nothing.. But, after every lost he blamed the fighters for not payying attention or training seriously or hard enough.. He even missed a training session and didn't even bother to apologize or give a reason why yet, is there fault -What nerve.! Everyone on that team (thought I'm sure hoped they were on Tito's team) forth with everything they had and respectfully represented team "Shamrock" Only Ed Herman -because he's a superior athlete- was able to overcome his opponents with the limmited training and direction he got from Shamrock.. From the begining Shamrock seemed self-obsorbed and self-centered and only seems to have taken part on the show to insure his rematch with Tito..This is apperent in the choosing of team names. Tito chose team punishment taking the focus of him and puting it on the fighters. Ken Chose -well we know what he chose.. Anyway because of thier different mind-set and thier respective training and fighting philosiphies and Tito's apperent love for the sport, I choose Tito to once again reign victorious..!
 

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Gman said:
Ken Shamrock is still quite skilled at submissions, particularly leg/toe locks. Tito, on the other hand, has only ever won one fight by submission in the octagon, and that was a neck crank against Yuki Kondo back in 2000. Tito is a wrestler/striker who has himself been defeated by a submission (guillotine choke by Guy Metzger). Granted, Tito is a better fighter than he was when he fought Metzger early on in his career, back in 1997, but you can't count out Shamrock's experience and ability to find a tapout by submission somewhere in the fight.

I'm quite sure Tito will win again by pounding Ken into raw meat, but I don't think we can write off the "old man" either.

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Granted, anyone with a hart beat has a chance to win, but that's all I give Shamrock a hart beat.. If he wins this fight I would be absolutly Shocked.!!
I give Ken credit for longivity. But I can't for the life of me see were and how he got the Moniker "The worlds most dangerous Man" What Are they talking about,what makes him so dangerous, is it lack of deoreant, or is it his Breath..? But seriously, what has he done to desrve that name? He lost to Gracie, went over sea's to Japan where they see any American with a great physic as larger than life. In between he won the fights he won here and there were Boring. His "Super Fights" were virtual Hugfests. And even on his prime (though I admit that he was much better than average) he wasn't the stand out fighter of his time, It was Gracie, Sevran, Frye. Even Kimo who rarely forth and Tank Abbout were definatly more exciting fighter than ever was.. His best fights were over sea's where as I stated he was looked at as a God. The best fight I ever seen him in was his most resent againt Kimo,Where I have to admit he looked fantastic,totally rejuvinated, his best ever.. If he can bring that, he has a chance. But remember Tito is not Kimo, and his addittute and mind set on the Ultimate Fighter 3 Show, expossedwhat he's made off on the inside and truely I didn't see much there.. Unless of course he was doing what he claimed Tito was doing -Playing a part- Then he desrves an Oscar. he fooled everybody and Tito may actual get a fight..!
 

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holla-well said:
I am with u 110%. Shamrock only wanted to coach to be able to fight Ortiz again. I hope tito does what he said...retire shamrock.tito is a hands on coach while ken just sits back a & watches his team train.in my opion kens team wasnt really a team.
I also hope for the full 3 rounds.. I want to see him beat down to a bloody pulp..! I never been a Shamrock fan, and have alway thought he was over rated. However, I gave him credit -on occation- for edging out a statigic fight here and there.. But after seeing his shameless coaching performance on the Ultimate Fighter 3, I have develope a dislike of him and I want to see Tito Brutally beat him down every secound of the fight... I don't see him lasting more than Two rounds.. On another note, Big-ups to Rahsad Evans for totally man-handling of Bonnar.. Admittedly, I didn't see him getting by Bonnar,and much less with such ease...!
 

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Chris the Crippler has been Crippled.!

What Happend to bad-boy Chris Liben...??? He was completely demolished that's what.. Truely the Crippler has been Crippled.! It looks like someone has finally tapped his "Iron" Jaw with some kriptonite..,WOW.!
 

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alamojj said:
Anderson Silva is extremely under-rated. Lets not forget; he's stopped Jorge Rivera, Jeremy Horn, Lee Murray, and many more. The dude has fought and beat some big name fighters. Leben isnt a good fighter, he just has alot of heart. His technique is ugly like Quarry's. He's a Team Quest fighter...nuff said.
True to that..,Your words cound't have been any clearer.!! Despite all the damage He's done, all the "Top" fighter he's destroyed, Anderson Silva remains extremely under-rated.! But know in the UFC poeple are going to take notice. This cat is for real, and he is going to leave a trail of bodies all the way to the title..! Rich Franklin vs Anderson Silva..; Anyone..? WWhoooa baby- baby, I'll pay anything to see that..!!!
 
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