Ortiz v Shamrock

fullpitch · Jun 3, 2006

Poor TiTo doesnt stand a chance. he barley won against Forrest. Forrest is good but not Shamrock good.

I have to say I like forrests performances much better than shamrocks. forrest is an agressive scrapper but I havent seen that out of shamrock. maybe he will show that this time though since he hates tito so much.

The Don · Jun 3, 2006

this is really going to be a good fight I think I wonder if shamrock is going to come to the table as hungry as he might be this time

ZeroPRIDE · Jun 4, 2006

^^ I think its safe to say Ken wants to hurt Tito bad, and he hungry. How you seen TUF this year it seems there always going at it, mostly becuse Tito is always starting somthing.

Depending on who whats to hurt who more. Ill predict sub in second by Ken.

rana · Jun 4, 2006

Tim said:
Hey guys, I have been following the UFC for about a year now and love it. Looks like a great site here too.

I never liked Tito and his mouth. He is one of the top fighters, you can't deny that.

Now, from what I have seen on the show my view of him has really changed almost completely around. I have new found respect for him and am now a Tito fan...somewhat.

Tito is by far better coach than Shamrock. More what I am use to and my style.

Shamrock will fall.

yep, yep i totally think the same, tito is definately better, i really dont know wat shamrock is up to but its not working.
the only guy i think is worth it on his team is ed, and i'm not to sure i like his style really

HOJO · Jun 4, 2006

:laugh:

Adora said:
^^ I think its safe to say Ken wants to hurt Tito bad, and he hungry. How you seen TUF this year it seems there always going at it, mostly becuse Tito is always starting somthing.

Depending on who whats to hurt who more. Ill predict sub in second by Ken.

YOU HAVE TO BE KIDDING ME,DID YOU SEE THE FIRST FIGHT?WELL KEN IS OLD,HES NOT ONLY LOST A STEP BUT IT SEEMS HE CANT EVEN COACH LET ALONE FIGHT ANY MORE....SURE HE WAS ONCE A GREAT FIGHTER BUT HIS DAYS ARE GONE AS A GREAT FIGHTER AND TITO WILL PUNISH HIM ROUND 1 AND THEN IN ROUND TWO THE REF WILL STOP THE PUNISHMENT HE PUTS ON KEN..............END OF KEN SHAMMROCK!!

HOJO · Jun 4, 2006

fullpitch said:
I have to say I like forrests performances much better than shamrocks. forrest is an agressive scrapper but I havent seen that out of shamrock. maybe he will show that this time though since he hates tito so much.

TITO WILL WIN THIS FIGHT, FORREST GRIFFIN NOT ONLY HAS MORE HEART THAN KEN BUT HES EVEN GOT WHAT IT TAKES TO BEAT KEN..I THINK TITO HAS GOTTEN SO DEEP IN KENS HEAD THAT KEN CANT EVEN FIGHT HIS OWN FIGHT...REMEMBER THAT IN THE TITO GRIFFEN FIGHT , TITO WAS HURT AND THE FIRST ROUND HE SHOULD OF FINISHED FORREST BUT HIS INJURY GOT THE BEST OF HIM AND HE STILL FOUGHT HARD...I CAN REMEMBER ONE FIGHT KEN HAD AND HE HAD HIS CORNER THROW IN THE TOWEL AS A SIGN THAT HE QUIT....

Eminem · Jun 4, 2006

If you think ken is going to win your crazy.
Did you watch when he had his fight against Franklin?
he was completely dominated.

Eminem · Jun 4, 2006

^^ I think its safe to say Ken wants to hurt Tito bad, and he hungry. How you seen TUF this year it seems there always going at it, mostly becuse Tito is always starting somthing.

Depending on who whats to hurt who more. Ill predict sub in second by Ken

Im holding this to you.

ZeroPRIDE · Jun 5, 2006

OK thats cool i have faith in Sham. He shall prevail over that trash talking S.O.B. How can any say that Tito is good. Yall must havent watched him against Chuck. Chuck beat the hell out of him. Sure Tito he has his good fights against no names but hes still good.

IronMan · Jun 5, 2006

Tito's proven that he's better on his feet and ust as good on the ground. As much as I'd like to see virtue and goodness prevail over the huntington beach bad boy, the smart money's on Tito.

Eminem · Jun 5, 2006

OK thats cool i have faith in Sham. He shall prevail over that trash talking S.O.B. How can any say that Tito is good. Yall must havent watched him against Chuck. Chuck beat the hell out of him. Sure Tito he has his good fights against no names but hes still good

.

lol did you see Sham vs Tito 1?

I dunno i say Shams chances are very very very slim.

IronMan · Jun 5, 2006

Chuck would beat the snot out of Ken too, if he had the opportunity. Tito crushed Ken last time and Ken's knowledge of jiu-jitsu still hasn't improved, as anyone who watches TUF can tell you.

Tito will beat Ken either by KO, TKO or ref stoppage, it's that simple. Leave Chuck out of it, he's better than both of them.

ZeroPRIDE · Jun 5, 2006

I was just saying that Chuck beat the hell out of him. I didnt say that they where better than him.

MaximusQ · Jun 6, 2006

shamrocks pride gets in the way

I am not taking anything away from Ken Shamrock, who truly is a living legend. He is around 40 now.... and time waits for no one..... Tito will beat his ass worse than the first time.... I hate to sound like that guy, but... Shamrock in his prime vs. Tito in his prime would be a hell of a fight.... I, personally will take no pleasure in seeing Tito beat up a fighter who is way past his prime

ZeroPRIDE · Jun 6, 2006

I still think Sham, will win this fight. In his prime Tito would not stand a chance. To be honest Sham, may have not taken the first fight seriously. But you can bet he will be ready this time.

ZeroPRIDE · Jun 9, 2006

Sham will win then we will see Tito say i was 100% so it wasnt a fare fight.
I like the way that Tito actually beleaves he beat the shit out of Shamrock the last time they fought.

4uOrtiz · Jun 12, 2006

IronMan said:
Tito's proven that he's better on his feet and ust as good on the ground. As much as I'd like to see virtue and goodness prevail over the huntington beach bad boy, the smart money's on Tito.

one question :Since when did shamrock embody that which is virtuous and good? hehe But I do agree about the smart money.

Tressie

Sub By Armbar · Jun 13, 2006

Adora said:
I like the way that Tito actually beleaves he beat the shit out of Shamrock the last time they fought.

I'm not a fan of Ortiz and even I know that he did beat the shit out of Shamrock in thier first fight.

ZeroPRIDE · Jun 15, 2006

Well he didnt KO or TKO sp that not beat shti out of him in my book. Yea i know beat beat he up, but not as a bad as he makes it out to be

Onganju · Jun 15, 2006

Adora said:
Well he didnt KO or TKO sp that not beat shti out of him in my book. Yea i know beat beat he up, but not as a bad as he makes it out to be

No it's as bad as he makes it out to be.

Ken didn't even make it to the 3rd round.

I'm not a fan of Tito in any respect, but anyone realisticly expecting much out the upcoming UFC 61 fight may be a little too idealistic. I think a big thing that hurt Ken (and his skillset in general) is that he became a victom of believing his own hype and press. After his stint in the WWF, all he did was try to stand and brawl with people when that was never his greatest strength in the first place (submission wrestling was always his game). He could have trained deeper into that, and made his striking supplemental to his game plan but he tried to do the polar opposite, and was never even a modestly good striker in the first place. Given that he tried to completely re-invent the wheel in what brought him to the dance, he found himself lost in the new crop fighters who were more skilled.

"World's Most Dangerous Man" indeed... Maybe to himself at this juncture.

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