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Cbingham said:
Who cares about a welterwight?!?!?! that has to be the most moronic comment I have ever heard, George St. Pierre , Matt Hughs, BJ Penn, Sean Sherk, Carlos Newton, Joe Riggs, Ivan Salavary , Pat Militech, Frank Trigg, I could go on and on you can not deny the absolute talent of these fighters

Also in the LHW div, Randy Cotoure Chuck Liddell, Tito Ortiz, Vitor Belfort, Jeremy Horn(on occasion) Evan Tanner

HW, Ricco Rodriguez, Silvia , Arlovski, Rizzo,

The list goes on and on and on, what did Pride produce, maybe 10 big name fighter who anybody gives a shit about. come on man.

Pride draws bigger crowd but think about it
Pride is held in Tokyo, given the sheer population and fighting culture it is only natural the crowds are huge.

Vanderlei is exciting, but he is a wild swinger, A world class striker (like Vitor Belfort) would destroy him. Like Vitor did in 44 seconds!

I have said it 100 times on this forum and I will say it again, the fighters the "graduate to Pride" are the former top fighters in the UFC who no longer hold their own against the new more talented fighter coming in to the UFC. When you say that Pride offers them bigger contracts, this may be true, but when you are a big name UFC fighter you get a hell of alot more like huge endorsment deals, Tito has had a role in a movie, and the fame is much higher. Any fighter who can make it and has a choice will pick UFC.

Do some research
I'm not completely sure what a "dick hopper" is, but I think I actually agree with Eminem for the first time.

Get with the times, Cbingham.

Rush said:
People like this guy and Sub By Armbar really piss others off on this forum "oh Fedor is my boyfriend, oh" no one cares we get it. Agreed, three people here say lock this thread. Fedorisgod is a spammer. Only one post and it was on "Pride owns UFC".
He hasn't even said anything about Fedor in this thread. And you are the LAST person who should be accusing anyone of spamming, especially when you have "-Most posts in one day by a MMA forum user (61)" as an accomplishment in your sig.
 

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Rush said:
Everywhere I go this guy must start an argument with someone because he thinks he is so smart. Just put him on your ignore list like me and others have and your time on this forum will be a lot better.
Uh, if you're only here to agree with everyone and not argue, I think you shouldn't be here. Most forums are for people to come and debate (like all of these MMA sub-forums), I mean why would you come to a forum just to agree with everyone? That sucks! And it's not my fault you're too sensitive to get into an argument. But do me a favor and stop PMing me to stop arguing with you, if you're too scared to have to defend your own opinions and statements, then don't say anything. If I disagree with you I'm going to speak my mind, simple as that.
 

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Your facts are mixed up a bit. Pride isn't on PPV in Japan, it's on NETWORK television in Japan on FujiTV which is one of the two biggest networks in Japan (Comparable to NBC, ABC or CBS in the states). Next to K-1 (except perhaps Baseball and Soccer?), MMA and especially Pride is the next biggest sporting event on Japanese television. What the UFC has right now with Spike doesn't even begin to compare with what Pride had over there. As of right now though Pride has lost its spot due to the rumors of them dealing with the Yakuza, so I agree that the UFC can still win in the long run.

And the UFC doesn't get 3 million viewers, they get a 3.0 or so share, which is closer to 1.5-1.8 million people (don't quote me on that number, but it aint 3 million viewers).
 

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jdun11 said:
u think vitor is world claas striker ? ur crazy!! and look wat happened when anderson silva faught leben..massacre..the welterweights are stronger in the ufc and middleweoghts are about even..heavyweights no contest..i seriously believe fedor could beat all 5 top ufc heavyweights in one night!! chuck , silva would be awesome, as would chuck shogun, or chuck arona, or chuck lil nog...wow pride lhw division is f'n loaded
Dude, you're talking to guy who thinks Justin Eilers, Paul Buentello, and Cabbage are bigger threats in the HW division than Nogueira.
 
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