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Spotify is facing a heated internal struggle with employees over whether it should host episodes of "The Joe Rogan Experience" that some staffers described as transphobic, Vice reported.

Vice reported that CEO Daniel Ek addressed staff concerns at an all-hands meeting on Wednesday. "In the case of Joe Rogan, a total of 10 meetings have been held with various groups and individuals to hear their respective concerns," Ek said, per three sources who spoke to Vice on the condition of anonymity.

Vice said its sources shared questions that had been submitted for the Q&A portion of the meeting. The questions, which shortened the name of the podcast to "JRE," suggest that friction is building between Spotify's leadership and its staff over the podcast.

"Why has Spotify chosen to ignore Spectrum ERG's guidance about transphobic content in the JRE catalog?" one question said, referring to an internal employee-representation group.

"Many LGBTQAI+/ally Spotifiers feel unwelcome and alienated because of leadership's response in JRE conversations. What is your message to those employees?" another read.

Sources told Vice that Spotify staff highlighted one episode in which Rogan interviewed Abigail Shrier about her book "Irreversible Damage: The Transgender Craze Seducing Our Daughters."

"Joe Rogan and the episode in question have been reviewed extensively," Ek said in the all-hands, according to the report. "The fact that we aren't changing our position doesn't mean we aren't listening. It just means we made a different judgment call."

Ek also told employees not to leak to the media if they want to be included in company conversations about moderation, Vice reported. "If we can't have open, confidential debates, we will have to move those discussions to closed doors," he said.

This week, Rogan made headlines after hosting an episode where he recounted a joke in which he made the baseless suggestion that Caitlyn Jenner's trans identity was somehow inspired by the Kardashian women. Jenner and LGBTQ rights group the Human Rights Campaign condemned the segment.

Rogan, who has 9.5 million subscribers on YouTube, signed an exclusive deal with Spotify in May. This was seen as a huge win for the platform as it builds out its podcasting empire and competes with Apple, Amazon, and Google.

The back-and-forth indicates Spotify will increasingly have to deal with moderation issues not dissimilar to those at social-media companies like Facebook and Twitter. The company doesn't feature older episodes of Rogan's podcast featuring the right-wing conspiracy theorist Alex Jones — whose own podcast got booted from the platform in 2018 for breaching its rules on "hate content" — and it has removed some other episodes featuring far-right figures, Vice said.





 

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Something tells me that the Joe Rogan deal might get pulled at some point because of the fact that Joe Rogan is not the kind of guy to stand down or apologize for his opinions. If Spotify doesn't feel comfortable with Joe Rogan because he holds opinions different from their own they shouldn't be doing business with him. Very pure and simple.
 

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I think the UFC changed a lot since WME-IMG bought it out.

Joe Rogan's podcast will be the same. The question is whether or not anyone notices.

This is what I said about it 4 months ago.

We can see whether I was accurate.
 

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The UFC has changed but aside from participating in Pride month there hasn't been too much SJW activity going on in WME-IMG UFC. Also if Joe Rogan's podcast changes too much it will not be the Joe Rogan podcast and he will lose his audience. Spotify has to know that will happen so while they'll try to make changes, it can't change too much.
 

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More change on the horizon.

I think a lot of people expected this the second it was announced chinese owned spotify was buying his podcast.

It says "spotify employees". That's how CEOs and execs avoid taking responsibility for their own decisions.
 

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Yeah I wonder how much Joe Rogan is going to regret his podcast going on spotify if they're going to start instituting all of these changes. Honestly he's financially well off and shouldn't be doing this cause his blunt ways of doing things are going to change.
 

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I can't say what I think about this.

But I hope people pay attention and don't forget what they see. Its could be a valuable learning and life experience.
 

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There are morals to this story many might prefer to avoid as it is too uncomfortable or terrifying to think about.

If americans want to maintain freedom and rights its important that they understand why things like this happen.
 

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The UFC has changed but aside from participating in Pride month there hasn't been too much SJW activity going on in WME-IMG UFC. Also if Joe Rogan's podcast changes too much it will not be the Joe Rogan podcast and he will lose his audience. Spotify has to know that will happen so while they'll try to make changes, it can't change too much.
didn't know about that
 

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Well there wasn't too much of a push from the UFC for Pride month promotion, it was literally just people wearing shirts with Pride month on it. Other then that the UFC isn't doing anything progressive and knowing Dana White it probably won't be doing anything. WME-IMG understands where the UFC's core audience leans so they won't change things.
 
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