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I think head butts ar out because it can cause braindamage over time to both people plus there is the reisk of possible spinal injury though long term brain damage is a real issue. being an EMT it would cause damage similar to a low speed car crash which is capable of causing bruising to the brain and swelling and over time permenant injury. broken noses are a minor thing in comparison and yea I know it gives you a quick advantage
 

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yea I am looking at it from an EMT stand point. In a car crash when your head hits the windshield that impact one, Impact 2 is the brain hitting the front of the skull, impact 3 in the brain hitting the back of the skull. this is not even counting damage to the neck and spine whihc as stated is minimal in a head butt but the breain impact is still there this is the leading cause of brain damage in boxers hence Rocky, it was not him being hit it was his brain bouncing around inside his skull
 

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persononly I do not think it should be allowed to much is at risk for both fighters brain damage wise in a sport where a carrear can be periously short. I like to see good fights not someone get seriously hurt. i like competition and skill. that is part of the reason I did not like Tank Abbot sure he was a colorful character. but he was a brawler who only know how to hurt people hence he did not last long in MMA from what I could tell. A few lucky shots and he'd hurt some people win some fights but against a seasoned fighter he would be toast. EARLY UFC was lacking alot of seasoned fighters the ones who did most of the winning were your only examples. I'd like to be able to follow a fighter over a carear not just a couple fights and forget who he was cause he now drools all over himself like my 3 month old.
 

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RileyG said:
I'm inclined to agree with The Don too. The sport needs to grow and allowing things that are very "street-fightish" (new word) like headbutts would just further the negitive sterotype the sport has. Now if you train and you want to learn how to throw a headbutt it is very effective for self-defense.
That it can be espically if you our out numbered and get grabbed a head but can take an opponent out for several minutes espically if they have never had thier nose broken it can be a very humbling experience to someone and a major deterrant to thie friends if they see one of thier buddies get his nose splattered and the blood which looks like alot but is actually not very serious since its mainly just cappalary bleeding. it looks a mess but works in most cases
 

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IronMan said:
Isn't the point of MMA to simulate a street fight in a controlled situation. That's the way I understand it anyway.

I understand the bit about keeping both fighters safe and all, but I guess I prioritize a little bit differently.
Yes and no. You have to remmber above all else its a compitetion. No one does this in hopes of ending up with severe brain damage but not alot of people understand how different injuries effect the body over a long term period. Sadly boxing has not taking this into consideration but most boxers nowadays are well aware of the risks from getting to many blows to the head over a long period of time since MMA has so much more dynamics to its compititions there are not as many blows aimed directly at the head over hte course of a fight due to shorter fight lengths and so many other options open to a fighter this is as not as serious as a concern but head butts would just add to this and introduce extra risk that is not really needed, where as in a street fight it is a good strike, in MMA it is not really needed.
 

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ok the fence is not bad. keeps a fighter from falling out.. maybe make it padded some how so it don't cut the fighter and create a stoppage for that. but the head but is a cheap move that requiers almost no skill. heck my 3 month old can bruise you with his head butts.. It is simply not needed. all it would do is shorten fighters carears give the sport a bad name an you'll end up with a bunch of half brain dead retired fighters. You think guys like ALi improove the image of boxing when you see them now? Nope why do you think they almost never go to a man like that besides being half brain dead . oh wait thats why... And no I am not insulting his carear as a boxer he was truly one of the best.. we need MMA fighters with his style that will bring in better ratings
 
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