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Which type of win shows you're the better fighter and it wasn't just a fluke?

  • TKO

    Votes: 16 26.2%
  • KO

    Votes: 13 21.3%
  • Submission

    Votes: 17 27.9%
  • Unanimous decision

    Votes: 15 24.6%
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There are many different ways to win in MMA. What's the most decisive/definitive way to win that says you were clearly the better fighter?

(I know that each fight is circumstantial... for example, A TKO may have been an early stoppage, a knockout may be a fluke punch, etc... but when you see someone's record, which do you consider was a more dominant performance?)
 

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I voted UD, but it all depends on way the fight has gone rather than the finish.
I mean you can have a flash K.O win or a dominating 2 round performance ending in a K.O so its tough to say.
 

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MMA is so versatile so it's hard to say. You might end up getting dominated for 3 rounds and then get a lucky KO or submission. UD maybe, even though you didn't finish your opponent.
 

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i voted unanimous decision because it's a bit of a spectacle seeing one fighter get dominated and put on show for the whole fight.
but i guess if it were that dominant then you should of been able to finish the fight, and a little bit of credit would go to the other fighter for surviving without being KO'd.

then again if it was a fighter that i'd expect to strike and knock people out more often then not, say like anderson silva, then i'd find the KO on the record alot more impressive then dragging out the decision.

there's plenty of factors to consider, it's hard to come down to a pinpoint answer.
 

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Yeah, I thought a unanimous decision was more definitive because there's no luck factor since it went the distance. Though, I'd also say a TKO as well. It means that the opposing fighter wasn't knocked unconcious or tapped out. Instead, the ref saw that the fighter was being overwhelmed (or dominated).
 

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I'm gonna go with submission since you actually make the other guy pass out or admit defeat - no doubt about the winner/loser there...

UD can be very subjective and vary a great deal from judge to judge... See Machida - Shogun 1 or BJ Penn - Frankie Edgar for example, could have gone either way and some people argue one or both went the wrong way because of unknowledgable judges...

So submission
 

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I find it hard to view a UD as a decisive win because you didnt finish your opponent.

As has already been mentioned, too many variables to generalize in the main.
 

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A decision win is a person's opinion of the fight, a (T)KO or submission is a fact. That's the way I see it anyway, so I'm ruling out UD/SD of my little meaningless one-person vote.

Depends on the opponent, there's nothing more decisive than beating someone at their own game: knocking out a stand-up fighter or submitting a submission specialist. If you beat them at the weaker part of their skillset the haters will always say 'FLUKE'
 

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none of them they can all still be classed as fluke, it all depends on how you T(KO) them , Sub them or beat them by decision.
 

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It's purely circumstancial in my view. A unanimous decision is not a dominate performance per se. There's huge difference between a GSP/Alves unanimous decision and a Fitch/Pierce unanimous decision (no bias, just trying to make a point here). Submissions and (T)KOs say a lot more than a decision in my view because even if you've got beat on for 4 rounds you still had the composure and skill to pull off the sub/(T)KO. The fight is not over until the bell rings and until it does it's everybody's fight to win or to lose.
 

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I'm gonna go with submission since you actually make the other guy pass out or admit defeat - no doubt about the winner/loser there...

UD can be very subjective and vary a great deal from judge to judge... See Machida - Shogun 1 or BJ Penn - Frankie Edgar for example, could have gone either way and some people argue one or both went the wrong way because of unknowledgable judges...

So submission
^^This is how is I see it also.^^
 

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Yeah but.. a submission means that your opponent doesn't want to fight anymore therefore giving up, but a KO means that he can't fight anymore, doesn't matter if he wants it or not.

Both should be taken equally. That's my opinion though.
 

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You're right about that... But making another man say "Uncle" is just the ultimate defeat seen through the eyes of people who aren't aware of the respect involved in Martial Arts :)
 

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A submission takes effort and skill. A KO can be a 'lucky' punch and a decision can be a bad one, as we've seen countless times before...
 

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It's purely circumstancial in my view. A unanimous decision is not a dominate performance per se. There's huge difference between a GSP/Alves unanimous decision and a Fitch/Pierce unanimous decision (no bias, just trying to make a point here). Submissions and (T)KOs say a lot more than a decision in my view because even if you've got beat on for 4 rounds you still had the composure and skill to pull off the sub/(T)KO. The fight is not over until the bell rings and until it does it's everybody's fight to win or to lose.
Entirely circumstantial --- although I would say winning by DQ of your opponent is the worst way to win.
 

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Very hard to say. There are fights like Lesnar/Carwin where a submission gets pulled off, or an out-of-nowhere KO that don't really prove one guy is better than the other (Think Cung Le/Smith). Too many variables in my opinion.
 

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A win by KO is the most decisive in my mind. Whether it be a flash KO or a 3 round domination ended by a KO. The others take skill and are very good, but to KO someone means you completely destroyed any concious thought and that you could do whatever you want with them. The others are not as humiliating either. You look at someone who has just been submitted compared to someone who has just been KOed and you can see the difference in how humiliated someone is.

TKO is the least dominating performance in my mind because you never know if that fighter could come back and win like Lesnar did.

Oh and MrObjective, I agree.
 
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