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Don't get me wrong, I love all fights, and get excited to maybe see some prelim matches get shown on a PPV. But since Shogun/Machida at UFC 104, the main events/bigger fights have all been pretty blah. Usually lopsided fights coming in or quick KOs.

105 - Couture/Vera - close fight, wasn't a great fight
106 - Tito/Forresr - perhaps the best main event since, too bad the fighters are irrelevant to the title.
107 - Mir/Kongo no
- BJ/Sanchez - watched a legend but not an epic fight
108 - Rashad/Thiago - one-sided fight until an overrated finish.
109 - Joke of a Card.
110 - This is where I thought the excitement would be back. Nog was finished quick, not a great fight.
111 - Carwin/Mir same as the Nog fight, anticipated, but 1 guy came to fight.
- Hardy/GSP not a great fight

Each fight in the history of the UFC doesn't need to be a nail biter, but in Main Events I would like to see fights longer than 2 minutes and good overall fights. It has been really lacking, nothing eventful even happened unlike Hendo/Bisping KO, Lesnar/Mir craziness, Silva Roy JonesING Forrest and so on. The favs have generally won and they have been pretty blah fights. Before this stretch we had the Machida/Shogun close fight, Nog/Couture was a great one, Wandy/Franklin was a real good one.

I just haven't been that excited walking away from many of the recent PPV.

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And in reality it doesn't have much chance of turning around at 112.

If I was a betting man I'd bet my house on BJ and Anderson. They are all but locks going in and after watching 112 I will walk away watching what I knew would happen.

113 might be the chance to turn this around. Shogun/Machida should be great, at least it is a total toss up going into the fight. And Paul Daley/Kos should be an athletic battle as well. 114 looks promising too.
 

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And in reality it doesn't have much chance of turning around at 112.

If I was a betting man I'd bet my house on BJ and Anderson. They are all but locks going in and after watching 112 I will walk away watching what I knew would happen.

113 might be the chance to turn this around. Shogun/Machida should be great, at least it is a total toss up going into the fight. And Paul Daley/Kos should be an athletic battle as well. 114 looks promising too.
Watching BJ and anderson fight on any card is exciting. Yes they are going to win, the question is and the excitement for me is just how badly are they going to dominate the challengers? Are we going to see another matrix scene in Silvas fights? Are we going to see an even more improved and dominant BJ? Im sure as hell excited for tommorow.

On top of that you have terry etim who is always a very exciting fighter to watch. Then we have 113, awesomeness, then 114 more awesomeness. The only event ive come away from really dissapointed as of late was the floran/gomi fight, truly terrible. The rest of the fights on the night made up for it though.

These are great, stacked cards, i dont see why your not getting excited.
 

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My man, either you seem very hard to please, or I am very easy to please - because I've found the majority of cards from UFC 100+ to be of quite a high standard. Even if the fight was not spectacular, the majority of main/co-main events have really helped shape it''s respective division.

For example, UFC 111: Carwin v Mir - it showed Carwin had what it takes to hang with the best, giving him the #2 HW spot in the UFC. On top of this - Gonzaga v Dos Santos fight on the UFC on Versus card cemented JDS as a legit top contender (and proved JJ's legitimacy). This led to a somewhat solid top 5 HW list in the UFC: Brock, Carwin, Cain/JDS, JDS/Cain, Mir. Also, even though the GSP v Hardy fight was not aesthetically beautiful - it further concreted GSP's top spot, and showed that Hardy does in fact have what it takes to become champion one day.

UFC 100: Cain v Big Nog was a very hyped fight, and I personally thought it was great (not just because I was there. Cain KO'ing Nog gave him the #3/4 HW spot.

UFC 109: Okay, I have to agree with you that Randy v Coleman was lackluster - although hey, we saw a rare sub victory by Randy. However, the Sonnen v Marquardt fight really opened people's eyes to the fact that Sonnen isn't too bad and could in fact challenge for the title. I know lots of people said he simply outwrestled Nate for 15mins, yes he did - but he also wasn't submitted (nearly doesn't count) and really pushed the pace. This fight leveled out the MW rankings: Silva, Maia, Sonnen, Marquardt.

etc. etc. etc.

Anyway, yeah I've actually really been enjoying the UFC cards as of late - including all of the freebies they've been throwing our way.
 

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Don't get me wrong, I love all fights, and get excited to maybe see some prelim matches get shown on a PPV. But since Shogun/Machida at UFC 104, the main events/bigger fights have all been pretty blah. Usually lopsided fights coming in or quick KOs.

105 - Couture/Vera - close fight, wasn't a great fight
106 - Tito/Forresr - perhaps the best main event since, too bad the fighters are irrelevant to the title.
107 - Mir/Kongo no
- BJ/Sanchez - watched a legend but not an epic fight
108 - Rashad/Thiago - one-sided fight until an overrated finish.
109 - Joke of a Card.
110 - This is where I thought the excitement would be back. Nog was finished quick, not a great fight.
111 - Carwin/Mir same as the Nog fight, anticipated, but 1 guy came to fight.
- Hardy/GSP not a great fight

Each fight in the history of the UFC doesn't need to be a nail biter, but in Main Events I would like to see fights longer than 2 minutes and good overall fights. It has been really lacking, nothing eventful even happened unlike Hendo/Bisping KO, Lesnar/Mir craziness, Silva Roy JonesING Forrest and so on. The favs have generally won and they have been pretty blah fights. Before this stretch we had the Machida/Shogun close fight, Nog/Couture was a great one, Wandy/Franklin was a real good one.

I just haven't been that excited walking away from many of the recent PPV.

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OK Im not gonna go through everything the bold are just things that caught my eye....you made statements then went against it in the next sentence. Dont get me wrong some fights cant please everybody. If you truly love fighting you should like any fight that isnt like Kimbo/Huston..(I dont blame Kimbo in that one tho) ....You said you want a flashy KO like Henderson/Bisping...but then you say you dont want a fast KO....A KO is a KO to me ..... And arent Favs suposed to win???? BJ/Sanchez was a great fight to me A GREAT Champ defeats a fighter with a rock for a chin and a heart of a Fn LION......I LOVE an upset ....but im not upset when it goes the way it suposed to lol......I can understand somewhat where you are comming from but if you truly love MMA sit back and enjoy the show man not every fight can be perfect
 

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OK Im not gonna go through everything the bold are just things that caught my eye....you made statements then went against it in the next sentence. Dont get me wrong some fights cant please everybody. If you truly love fighting you should like any fight that isnt like Kimbo/Huston..(I dont blame Kimbo in that one tho) ....You said you want a flashy KO like Henderson/Bisping...but then you say you dont want a fast KO....A KO is a KO to me ..... And arent Favs suposed to win???? I LOVE an upset ....but im not upset when it goes the way it suposed to lol......I can understand somewhat where you are comming from but if you truly love MMA sit back and enjoy the show man not every fight can be perfect
I never said I wanted a flashy KO. I said at least there was a buzz in teh Hendo fight, with teh after math and exactly how he took out Bisping.

And I'm not saying every fight has to go a certain way.

I don't get what is so hard to get here. You tell me some wars that were main events. Some Main or Co Main Events where after you said wow, that could be up there for fight of the year. There hasn't been. That is all I'm saying. It has been either a lop-sided fight on paper going in or 1 guy get destroyed like Mir vs. Carwin. Do I jump out of my seat when it happens? Yea. But there hasn't been a great Main Event in some time.

Shocked that no one really agrees or even understands my post. Do I hate the cards? No obviously I continue to watch. But i haven't walked away from many recently saying WOW what a night of fights. I either know what is going to happen before the fight even starts or the fight is over before it really even starts. There has been no epic battles, no major upsets. Pretty uneventful.

And sit back and enjoy? I do. Obviously I watch them all. There is nothing wrong in saying the big fights have been pretty one sided and there has been very few GREAT fights. You don't have to sit and enjoy everything that is given to you. It isn't anyone's fault, the fights just haven't turned out to be all that close or all that great since the SHogun/Machida fight, that was amazing.
 

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could not disagree with this post more.

105 I fully enjoyed, ok maybe I was a bit biest on this one with there been a lot of English interest with Pearson, Hardy and Bisping all on the main card, but ether way I thought it was a great event.

107 was right up there as one of the best events of recent years imo, I loved watching both the co-main and the main event, as for the main event been one sided, Diego earned his title shot so he had every right to fight for the title, the fact that BJ dominated him make this fight great imo just to witness what a great champion he is.

110 was an action pack, really exciting card from start to finish, and the fact we saw the rise of a new HW star at the end was a great finale to a great card.

As for 106, 108 and 111, I enjoyed all of those cards and thought they where all decent enough cards on paper before the events took place.

109 was the only card on paper before the event that I was a little disappoint with the line of, but in the end Thaigo vs Swick and Sonnen vs Marquardt both turned out to be great fights, then the Maia and Serra fights where not bad ether, so it turned out to be a fairly decent card.

So I personally have been very impressed with what the UFC has given us this the time frame you just stated.
 

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I never said I wanted a flashy KO. I said at least there was a buzz in teh Hendo fight, with teh after math and exactly how he took out Bisping.

And I'm not saying every fight has to go a certain way.

I don't get what is so hard to get here. You tell me some wars that were main events. Some Main or Co Main Events where after you said wow, that could be up there for fight of the year. There hasn't been. That is all I'm saying. It has been either a lop-sided fight on paper going in or 1 guy get destroyed like Mir vs. Carwin. Do I jump out of my seat when it happens? Yea. But there hasn't been a great Main Event in some time.

Shocked that no one really agrees or even understands my post. Do I hate the cards? No obviously I continue to watch. But i haven't walked away from many recently saying WOW what a night of fights. I either know what is going to happen before the fight even starts or the fight is over before it really even starts. There has been no epic battles, no major upsets. Pretty uneventful.
WWE, watch it.
 
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And I am talking about the Main fights. The other fights make the card and can save a card. I'm not talking about the events as a whole, I' talking about the big fights that sell the fight. Hasn't been a GREAT main event since Machida/Shogun and Nog/Couture. Just hasn't. You can love watching BJ kick the shit out of Sanchez, and I don't mind it, but it doesn't constitute as a great fight.

If you are talking the NFL or NBA, do you walk away from a 30 pt win margin thinking it was a great game? I don't...did I like seeing the dominant team be great? Yea, but it wasn't a great game.

When 2 great fighters fight anditis a toss up going in, and 1 team dominates then that is a GREAT fight, because that truely shows greatness. Not beating up on a guy that has no right being in there with you. That just shows fighter A is amazing and fighter B is still a B level fighter...which we all knew coming in. Liike the GSP/Hardy fight. That fight didn't show us anything. We knew GSP was a beats, we knew Hardy wasn't close to his level. Like the BJ fight, we knew BJ was a P4P beast, we knew Sanchez wasn't close to his level. I'm not that big of a fan in watching something that I can call going into the fight.

112 - Anderson wil KO Maia whenever he gets the chance, not sure what round depends on how Maia fights.

Edgar will look like Sanzhez after his fight. Maybe BJ wins by rear naked. But most likely it will stay standing and BJ will out class Frankie for 3 or 4 rounds until the fight is stopped.
 

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could not disagree with this post more.

105 I fully enjoyed, ok maybe I was a bit biest on this one with there been a lot of English interest with Pearson, Hardy and Bisping all on the main card, but ether way I thought it was a great event.

107 was right up there as one of the best events of recent years imo, I loved watching both the co-main and the main event, as for the main event been one sided, Diego earned his title shot so he had every right to fight for the title, the fact that BJ dominated him make this fight great imo just to witness what a great champion he is.

110 was an action pack, really exciting card from start to finish, and the fact we saw the rise of a new HW star at the end was a great finale to a great card.

As for 106, 108 and 111, I enjoyed all of those cards and thought they where all decent enough cards on paper before the events took place.

109 was the only card on paper before the event that I was a little disappoint with the line of, but in the end Thaigo vs Swick and Sonnen vs Marquardt both turned out to be great fights, then the Maia and Serra fights where not bad ether, so it turned out to be a fairly decent card.

So I personally have been very impressed with what the UFC has given us this the time frame you just stated.
You along with everyone in this thread is confusing KOs and exciting fights with GREAT fights. Have the fights excited me, yea, but I haven't seen many GREAT fights on teh main or co main events. That is undisputed and all I am saying here.
 

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You along with everyone in this thread is confusing KOs and exciting fights with GREAT fights. Have the fights excited me, yea, but I haven't seen many GREAT fights on teh main or co main events. That is undisputed and all I am saying here.
Well maybe your personal contradiction of what you class as a great fight is different to others, just because a fight does not turn out to be 2 fighters slugging it out for 3 or 5 rounds to a close decision, like say the Miller vs Bocek or the Person vs Silver fights where, does not mean it is not a great fight still for different reasons imo.

Still could not disagree more with the Penn vs Sanchez fight, I thought that was one of the best title defences I have ever seen personally so in no way do I not see that as a great fight.

I think it would be accurate to say that on some recent cards the main event has turned out to be no so "great" a fight as some of the card fillers have turned out to be, but then its often not the main event that sells a card to me in the first place, to say "The UFC has been disappointing to me for a while" for me would be a very inaccurate statement, since I have enjoyed the majority of UFC fights within this period.
 

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Meh. I kind of see what you mean. I didn't like 105/106/108/109 main events. I wouldn't have liked UFC 111's main event had I watched it but GSP was fighting so it was a given. Did I dislike the overall cards? No. I loved them. I was just dissappointed by what it could of been.
 

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You along with everyone in this thread is confusing KOs and exciting fights with GREAT fights. Have the fights excited me, yea, but I haven't seen many GREAT fights on teh main or co main events. That is undisputed and all I am saying here.

What is it we are doing here?
 

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the last "great" main event was Handy vs Nog IMO

but im not disappointed at all, have been great cards and alot of great fights.

most events im more excited about a non main event fight anyways, so it doesnt disappoint me if the main was a little lacklustre.

with the calibre of guys who often Main Event these days.... its hard to find competitive fights.
 

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I have been disappointed with some of the main events as of late because they haven't been all that good of fights, but the rest of the card always makes up for it. I know every card I have gotten lately there have been at least one or two great fights on it.
 

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Hmmm. Everyone keeps bringing up the overall cards, which I never said I was disappointed in. Don't know what else to say other than read the posts.

The Main Events.

Tito/Forrest
Randy/Coleman

Those 2 main events falls into the just sad department. People here who "try" to be hardcore fans will never said a fight is bad, and will say "oh, I watch for the other fights". No you don't. Well at least you don't if you are paying 50 bucks for it. Why is the UFC the biggest promotion? Because it has the best fighters. Would you pay 50 bucks to watch King of the Cage? No you wouldn't. So don't give me the crap where you don't care about the big fights, everyone loves watching the best fighters in big time fights....if they didn't this board would be filled with Terry Etim posts, which it isn't. But those 2 main events are just terrible by UFC standards.

Rashad/Thiago? Not that great of a matchup, Thiago is terribly overrated. It wasn't that great of a fight anyway.

Cain/Nog was a highly anticiapted fight. I can deal with this, but to call it a great fight is pretty out there.

Hardy/GSP we knew what would happen, and it did. I've seen GSP do it before, he didn't add anything new to his domination, he just dominated a lesser opponent. Not a great fight.

BJ/Sanchez - Ok I will give this one to those who loved it. I loved watching BJ win, but he kills any and all at 155, to expect any different was just dumb. Good title defense, but to call it a great fight is kind of out there.

You tell me from UFC 105 to UFC 111 which Main Events fall into a great fight catagory.

Again, for those of you who can't read. This is not saying none of the cards weren't really good. This is talking about Main Events and how the uFC really hasn't had a great fight cap one of its cards since Nog-Couture.
 

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BJ/Frankie should be an exciting fight Frankie isn't good enough to win but he is good enough everywhere to make the fight a competition. Andy brutally KOing people is always great to see also because unlike the heavyweight meatbags he does it with style. The reason for the cards sucking somewhat recently is all the injuries and Rampage and Hendo leaving. Things are getting back on track starting with this PPV.
 

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I agree with the threadstarter. Felt the same way.
 

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Champs have been hurt and unable to fight, so of course it hasn't been great. The cards are picking back up though, 110 was good, and 111 was good. Just waiting for 113 "The Rematch" and 114 "Treat me like a bitch now"
 
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