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I heard Rogan and Goldberg say how Tito was a real class act for raising Shamrock's hand and "burying the hatchet" after the last fight.

What I saw first was Tito flipping a hall of famer off, doing his little "burial ordeal", and then putting on a shirt that said "Punishing him into Retirement".

Tito Ortiz is a great fighter, one of my favorite when it comes to shear ability. As far as his behavior, he's an ass. Not a bad man, acting out his bad self, but just an ass. He just defeated a man for a 3rd time. A man who stated he wants to bury the hatchet, a man who did great things for the industry that made Tito great, and a man who was 11 years older than he is, and then he acts like that?

I know Tito fans would say, "but Ken said this, and Ken said that". The truth is, Ken Shamrock is done as a fighter, and as such he retires as a legend. Tito Ortiz fails to give him the respect he deserves, even after he had convincingly beaten him for a 3rd time.

To make matters even sadder, all those UFC "fans" in attendance were booing their asses off when Ken was introduced. Way to follow the sport guys. You boo a hall of famer because he's fighting a man you booed a couple months ago, but suddenly decided you like him better. Something tells me these are the same kind of "fans" who boo when 2 fighters measure each other up in the first 30 seconds of a fight, and don't start swinging wildly off the bat.

I'm a huge Liddell fan, but I don't think I've ever wanted him to beat someone's ass worse than now.
 

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I heard Rogan and Goldberg say how Tito was a real class act for raising Shamrock's hand and "burying the hatchet" after the last fight.

What I saw first was Tito flipping a hall of famer off, doing his little "burial ordeal", and then putting on a shirt that said "Punishing him into Retirement".

Tito Ortiz is a great fighter, one of my favorite when it comes to shear ability. As far as his behavior, he's an ass. Not a bad man, acting out his bad self, but just an ass. He just defeated a man for a 3rd time. A man who stated he wants to bury the hatchet, a man who did great things for the industry that made Tito great, and a man who was 11 years older than he is, and then he acts like that?

I know Tito fans would say, "but Ken said this, and Ken said that". The truth is, Ken Shamrock is done as a fighter, and as such he retires as a legend. Tito Ortiz fails to give him the respect he deserves, even after he had convincingly beaten him for a 3rd time.

To make matters even sadder, all those UFC "fans" in attendance were booing their asses off when Ken was introduced. Way to follow the sport guys. You boo a hall of famer because he's fighting a man you booed a couple months ago, but suddenly decided you like him better. Something tells me these are the same kind of "fans" who boo when 2 fighters measure each other up in the first 30 seconds of a fight, and don't start swinging wildly off the bat.

I'm a huge Liddell fan, but I don't think I've ever wanted him to beat someone's ass worse than now.
We shall see. I want to see TALENT prevail. But I don't believe immature fighters, such as Tito, belong in THE ULTIMATE FIGHTING CHAMPIONSHIP.
 

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hey u get ur ass kicked dont expect to get a kiss they hate each other u dont think ken would have boasts about it screw ken on this one he called out tito the last 2 times lets see if he calls him out again
 

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Tito clearly stated afterwards the grave digger antics and everything else was just for show , infact he told Shamrock face to faace that he is someone that Tito admires and loooks up to ................
 

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You aren't going to like everybody.

Personally I like how Tito acts, I don't agree with it, but I like the fact that its something different. Everyone can't be humble and respectfull.
 

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ive said this before but its all an act they actually get along in real life its dana using the want to be actor tito and the wwf star shamrock to put on a show for fans ... and tito is a nice guy he just does all that shit for show he thinks its entertaining for his fans
 

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You Are a Clown said:
ive said this before but its all an act they actually get along in real life its dana using the want to be actor tito and the wwf star shamrock to put on a show for fans ... and tito is a nice guy he just does all that shit for show he thinks its entertaining for his fans

Tito has been acting like that for years, maybe he plays it up a little for a show, but I think he really is a smartass and stuff in real life.
He was really young.
 

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guys remember its entertainment only thats why franklins fight was fixed

You like WWE don't you?
 

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Ok look i am only gonna say this once i am sick of some of you morons saying it was fixed this isnt the wwe just cos a fight doesnt in t'd way you want it to doesnt meen its a fix now use your brain for a moment if they fixed it they would have made it look like a really good close match to put on a show there would be on advantage at all by making the champ lose so early and getting dominated in fact it looks bad on the ufc that franklin lost not good he lost to a better fighter and thats all there is to it like it or not thats the way it is no set ups just got out clasped
 

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i've said this before, Tito could really care less about drama with Ken. He only flipped Ken off at the end of the 3rd fight, because the old man kept coming up with excuses how the fight was not fair each time. (knee injury, early stoppage). As soon as he saw Ken accept his fate, there was no hard feelings.
 

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I agree Tito knew he was lookin bad for flippin off Ken at the end of the fight thas why he said those things like he respecting him the only thing tito respects is an ass whooppin like the one chuck is gonna give him. Tito doesnt care about ken or what he did for the sport he thought he could get away with being an ass to ken but when he realix\zed no one was feeling it he quiclky flipped flopped like he always does and put on the side he thought people wanted to see. Tito doesnt stand anywhere he goes with what ever he thinks people want sure it makes you a good entertainer but it won't make you a real champion i.e. Chuck
 

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I would like to see Shamrocks reaction if he would have actually won the fight. I gurantee you he would've acted like a complete ass. And would not have retired. You heard him say he was waiting until the fight was over to make his discision.

Yeah. I like Ken and all, but its funny to me that they are talking about how classy a guy HE is, and they show the damn clip of the guy out and on the ground, and Ken is still like nuttin up to the guy as the ref drags him off..
 

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What are you talking about? Have you ever fought some one you hate, that has talked a lot of shit about you? It was in the heat of the moment that he flipped Ken off and he later apologized for it and gave him a ton of respect and said “it was his night” and that he always looked up to him. I have been a MMA fan for a long time and respect Ken because he is one of the guys who fought to keep the sport alive when John McCain was trying to have it banned in the US. People need to get over Tito’s antics its entertainment and they are FIGHTING, what has he done that is so much worse than any other fighter? He has made a name for him self and he is one of the most recognizable fighters in all of MMA and he will prove he is still a top competitor when he takes the belt from Liddell.
 

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Ok look i am only gonna say this once i am sick of some of you morons saying it was fixed this isnt the wwe just cos a fight doesnt in t'd way you want it to doesnt meen its a fix now use your brain for a moment if they fixed it they would have made it look like a really good close match to put on a show there would be on advantage at all by making the champ lose so early and getting dominated in fact it looks bad on the ufc that franklin lost not good he lost to a better fighter and thats all there is to it like it or not thats the way it is no set ups just got out clasped
use some punctuation, dude.
 

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WTF are people treating this like a streetbrawl, where you talk shit to the kid you beat down?
The fact that Tito later admitted that he respects Ken and all that other shit should only make you question more wtf he acted the way he did when he did.
If he had gotten up immediately after McCarthy stopped the fight and flipped Ken off, it could have been summarized as releasing frustration (which there shouldn't be any of to begin with, he beat down an older man 3 times)
But no, Tito took his time to do the burial crap, flip him off, then put on that shit shirt.

Just to point out, these are not 2 punks fighting in the street. Tito should respect the much older, and much more accomplished icon in his sport, and after beating his ass 3 times he should have the ballls and decency to treat Ken with far more respect than he gave him. Especially considering how the whole thing got really heated up with yet another asshole move with the "Gay Metzger is my *****" shirt. Sad how this is just about kicking someone's ass and then ridiculing him. It used to be about having honor in battle, now it seems as long as you win you can wipe your ass with your oponent.
 

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WTF are people treating this like a streetbrawl, where you talk shit to the kid you beat down?
The fact that Tito later admitted that he respects Ken and all that other shit should only make you question more wtf he acted the way he did when he did.
If he had gotten up immediately after McCarthy stopped the fight and flipped Ken off, it could have been summarized as releasing frustration (which there shouldn't be any of to begin with, he beat down an older man 3 times)
But no, Tito took his time to do the burial crap, flip him off, then put on that shit shirt.

Just to point out, these are not 2 punks fighting in the street. Tito should respect the much older, and much more accomplished icon in his sport, and after beating his ass 3 times he should have the ballls and decency to treat Ken with far more respect than he gave him. Especially considering how the whole thing got really heated up with yet another asshole move with the "Gay Metzger is my *****" shirt. Sad how this is just about kicking someone's ass and then ridiculing him. It used to be about having honor in battle, now it seems as long as you win you can wipe your ass with your oponent.
having honor doesnt pay the bills. i'm sure that all fighters know much more about honor than you and me as going the legth that they do requires a lot of dicipline and respect. The fighters are demanding better paying contracts to be able to pursue their passion and bring you much anticipated entertainment.
Its silly to get all heated about one fighter defeating his opponent and put on a show for the fans.
 

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I was thinking Ttio was still a bit excited and still had a ton of adreneline pumping through his system right after he was stoped by Big John. Which would kinda explain his actions. Im sorry but I dont think we should wrong him for that. Once he had a chance to simmer down he did apologise and gave his thatnks to Ken. Regardless if Tito ment it or not Tito did "man up" and showed respect. Tito made a wrong decession JUST SECONDS after he was forced to stop beating Ken, and then in Tito's way apologised. IM sorry but when a man admits he was wrong for doing something, very minor, in the passion of litterally just wining he should be forgivin. I mean Ken forgave him the second Tito apologised, so why can't Kens fans?! I am not justifying Tito's actions but Tito did see he was in the wrong and tried to make up for it!
 

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I love watching Tito fight and after watching him on TUF 3 I think he is a decent guy but the little burial dance and his utter disrespect for the fighters who have paved the way before him is really embarrassing to watch.

He needs to get some class.
 

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Tito was one of the big faces that brought the UFC into the mainstream, and it was mostly because people that HATED him, still loved to see him. They would boo him and claim to hate him, yet they still continue to buy tickets and watch his fights. Even if you don't like his attitude, you still gotta love the things he says and does. It's more entertainment outside of the fighting. When he steps in the octagon, it's all business.

He gave Shamrock the respect he deserved after the fight. It kind of looked like Shamrock was getting up to go at him again, just like the second fight, and it kind of seemed like Tito thought that too and that was why he flipped him off. When Tito saw it Shamrock was being geniune, he completely cooled off and embraced him. Good way to end their rivalry because the shit was getting oooold.
 
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