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This would be a more exciting fight. Carwin likes to stand and fight and thats what would make it a more interesting fight. Toney would possibly win. He would easily counter over Carwin's lazy jab, and he would easily counter Carwin's predictable right hand and if Carwin threw that uppercut the way he threw it against Lesnar, he would be ko'd.

I just think its a more interesting fight than Couture since Couture will probably just take Toney to the ground immediately. Couture may win, but it won't be very entertaining.
 

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Carwin would probably take Toney down. Toney has good stand up and in theory no ground game so why stand with him.
 

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Well, you can probably put this one in the UFC suggestion box, but considering that Carwin just fought and the Couture/Toney fight is already signed to happen, you probably won't get to see Toney fight Carwin in his UFC debut.
 

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This would be a more exciting fight. Carwin likes to stand and fight and thats what would make it a more interesting fight. Toney would possibly win. He would easily counter over Carwin's lazy jab, and he would easily counter Carwin's predictable right hand and if Carwin threw that uppercut the way he threw it against Lesnar, he would be ko'd.

I just think its a more interesting fight than Couture since Couture will probably just take Toney to the ground immediately. Couture may win, but it won't be very entertaining.
Well, you can probably put this one in the UFC suggestion box, but considering that Carwin just fought and the Couture/Toney fight is already signed to happen, you probably won't get to see Toney fight Carwin in his UFC debut.
 

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This would be a more exciting fight. Carwin likes to stand and fight and thats what would make it a more interesting fight. Toney would possibly win. He would easily counter over Carwin's lazy jab, and he would easily counter Carwin's predictable right hand and if Carwin threw that uppercut the way he threw it against Lesnar, he would be ko'd.

I just think its a more interesting fight than Couture since Couture will probably just take Toney to the ground immediately. Couture may win, but it won't be very entertaining.
LOL!

Then for the main event they can put in a goat against a hungry Lion. That fight should be equally competitive. Carwin would give Toney the beating of his life.
 

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LOL!

Then for the main event they can put in a goat against a hungry Lion. That fight should be equally competitive. Carwin would give Toney the beating of his life.
You think Carwins so good because u see him ko opp. but these opp get ko'd because they don't know how to deal with basic boxing skills, the jab and then the right hand that follows. Toney can easily deal with that.
 

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I just think Carwins the type of guy to try and prove he could ko Toney or stand and bang with him.
Maybe but personally I don't think he is. He has taken guys down in his fights before after they land a shot or two. Plus he is a smart guy and I don't see him as the kind of guy that would try to be a tough guy and stay standing just to prove something.

Now Pat Barry would probably stand with Toney. And CroCop and Kongo might, though they have shown that they will go for takedowns if they think they're better at grappling.
 

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You think Carwins so good because u see him ko opp. but these opp get ko'd because they don't know how to deal with basic boxing skills, the jab and then the right hand that follows. Toney can easily deal with that.
That's right. All of those mma fighters just don't know how to deal with good old fashioned boxing.

Oh wait... they all train boxing. Damn. Maybe he knocks them out because he hit's like a freight train then? Yeah that sounds more likely than they don't know how to deal with basic boxing skills.
 

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I would rather see James Toney vs James McSweeney or James Toney vs Ryan Bader. Toney versus someone who isn't a veteran of the game who would prefer to stand with him.
 

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I think there is a point he was put agianst Couture and no one else. It is because Couture wont stand with Toney but simply take him down and show him that MMA is not a joke and they can fight in a different form. Couture will then follow with some bad ass ground and pound.
 

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This would be a more exciting fight. Carwin likes to stand and fight and thats what would make it a more interesting fight. Toney would possibly win. He would easily counter over Carwin's lazy jab, and he would easily counter Carwin's predictable right hand and if Carwin threw that uppercut the way he threw it against Lesnar, he would be ko'd.

I just think its a more interesting fight than Couture since Couture will probably just take Toney to the ground immediately. Couture may win, but it won't be very entertaining.[/QUOTE

If you're talking boxing only, Toney would destroy Carwin and make it look easy. Ditto for any top level boxer vs any top level MMA fighter. It's what they do 24/7 and are damn good at it. You could take Vitali Klitschko and line up the top 10 HW MMA fighters and VK would KO all of them, one after the other.

Allow takedowns and Lesnar could likewise beat down the top 10 boxing heavies within a single night.
 

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Why would the UFC set Toney up with somebody who wants to strike? Makes no sense. They want to see him a crushed, humiliated puddle of shiny goo spread out on the canvas.

Dana clearly said in the post fight conference that they want to make an example of Toney. He has more chance of winning against Carwin than he does against Couture is what I think.
 

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I just think Carwins the type of guy to try and prove he could ko Toney or stand and bang with him.
I think the exact opposite. And to be perfectly honest... MMA Boxing is a complete 180 from Boxing. Toney would have to throw out half of his habits because it just wouldnt work in MMA. Sloppy Technique with power is alot more likely to succeed in MMA then it is in Boxing so it wouldnt be completely out of the question for Carwin to get the KO. I also partly say this because toney is somewhat retarded.
 

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Why would the UFC set Toney up with somebody who wants to strike? Makes no sense. They want to see him a crushed, humiliated puddle of shiny goo spread out on the canvas.

Dana clearly said in the post fight conference that they want to make an example of Toney. He has more chance of winning against Carwin than he does against Couture is what I think.
Agreed.

Why would they get someone to stand and bang with a former world champion boxer when they just want to get his name on the card to sell PPV's and then be done with him?

They matched him up with Couture for a reason. Randy is going to clinch up with Toney, push him to the fence, get the trip, go straight to side control and then pound on his face for 30 seconds before Toney is tapping to strikes. That will be Toney's first and last involvement in MMA and I will enjoy watching him getting beaten up.
 

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Do you guys honestly think Carwin isn't capable of changing his game plan? If he was matched up with Toney The Tool his camp would have him go to the ground then smash him. Most people act like Carwin has no wrestling. You just never get to see it, because he likes dropping people. He would clinch with the tool and slam him. Besides Carwin vs The Tool is a waist of top UFC hvy talent. Feed him to Randy, Randy's a legend. But lets be honest Randy's probably not going after the HVY title anytime soon. So let Randy have some fun with him. Carwin just kicked the shit out of "the best heavyweight in the world", Carwin lost the fight by himself.
 

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Why would the UFC set Toney up with somebody who wants to strike? Makes no sense. They want to see him a crushed, humiliated puddle of shiny goo spread out on the canvas.

Toney would bring fans from boxing into MMA.

It would be similar to Brock having the largest fanbase.

Dana's throwing a potential cash cow to the wolves, if you think about it.

Any other promotion would probably have given Toney a huge contract if only for the exposure and legitimacy he'd give them.

Its good to see it isn't necessarily all about the money. :thumbsup:
 
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