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One thing that became painfully clear after watching last night's fights, and something that really bothers me, is how the fans' boos influence the referees.

During the Bocek-Miller fight (great fight by the way), in the third round, I believe, Bocek was in deep with single-leg takedown attempt against the cage, and immediately, the partisan New Jersey crowd began booing, and sure enough, as soon as the boos started the ref warned Bocek to keep working or he was going to break them up. It didn't seem to matter to him that Bocek was in great positin for a potential takedown, all that mattered was the fans weren't pleased.

Now, I have no doubt that the crowd realized that if they began booing enough there was a great chance the ref would separate the fighters, and Miller- a New Jersey native- would be saved from potentially being taken down by the BJJ black belt Bocek. Don't get me wrong, it's smart strategy by the crowd, but it's disturbing that the ref would even consider separating two fighters when one of them is in great position for a takedown just because the fans started booing.

This was especially true with Dan Miragliotta-reffed fights last night, but I give him a pass because he is hands down the WORST referee in MMA. The fact that he even has a job still, is a disgrace to the industry.

I mean, sure, if one fighter is pressing another fighter against the cage for an extended period of time and really isn't working to inflict danmage and/or better his position, then they should be separated. But in the Bocek-Miller fight that ceratinly wasn't the case. Has anyone else noticed this disturbing trend of referees' actions be influenced by the crowd? I know Joe Rogan noticed, haha, and he wasn't too pleased by it either.
 

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One thing that became painfully clear after watching last night's fights, and something that really bothers me, is how the fans' boos influence the referees.
I'm bothered by this aswell, some refs just has no spine at all. It's about time for the UFC to do a clean up in the referee department.
 

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I say just let Herb Dean do every fight, I think there is only 1 other good reff, but I forgot his name.

Pulling a fighter off the cage when he is landing strikes and kees only 2 mins into the fight is wrong,especially since its a 5 round fight. I mean... Randy does this all the time and hardly ever gets pulled off.

Its like he just wanted to finish the fight already, because he must have knew that it would not last long :p
 

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Herb Dean, Mario Yamasaki, and Big John are the best.
 

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I say just let Herb Dean do every fight, I think there is only 1 other good reff, but I forgot his name.

Pulling a fighter off the cage when he is landing strikes and kees only 2 mins into the fight is wrong,especially since its a 5 round fight. I mean... Randy does this all the time and hardly ever gets pulled off.

Its like he just wanted to finish the fight already, because he must have knew that it would not last long :p
in that case the ufc could only do fights in nevada and no other state :(
 

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That crowd booed virtually every time a fight went up against the cage, or the fighters circled for more than 5 seconds, or whenever the "meathead factor" became more active.
 

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This is stated again and again whenever there is a reffing controversy. THE UFC HAS NO SAY IN WHO REFEREES FIGHTS. The athletic commission of the state decides who referees what events and what particular fights. It is New Jersey's athletic commission that allows Mirgliotta to continue refereeing in NJ. Promotions can request certain referees not be allowed to work events and fighters can even request referees not to work their fights, but it's up to the commission to decide.

I hate the fact that Mirgliotta can continue to get work but it's probably due to him having a friend in the commission or something. It's certainly doesn't have anything to do with his ability to do his job. He's probably injured more fighters and made more bad calls than every other referee combined. I mean he poked Heath Herring in the eye, nearly injured Akahiro Gono twice by pushing him to the ground on two separate occasions in the same fight, stopping the Kimbo/James Thompson because of a bloody ear (and not stopping the fight earlier when Thompson had landed 24 unanswered strikes in the crucifix), he also called Werdum/Vera too early and warned the wrong fighter when he was up-kicked by his opponent.

He's a shitty referee and needs to be kept far FAR away from the cage. Still, the UFC has no choice in who ref's the fights.
 

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Reffin in general on this card was pretty bad.

I like The Herb, Rosenthal and Yves L. Some others are decent too, but there are a few guys that are just dangerous to have reffing. Someone on the athletic commisions MUST take responsibility and make something happen here, we can't have the fighters health be in jeopardy every time some clown steps in to the cage to ref.

The rules need to change on when the ref can seperate or stand fighters up, let the guys do their jobs and fight! Only interfere is there is a prolonged stalemate. Not just to please the KO crazed crowd.

Atleast they let Pellegrino and Camoes do their thing, some of the most entertaining grappling iv'e seen in a long time. :thumbsup:
 

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Herb Dean, Mario Yamasaki, and Big John are the best.
Quoted for truth. If I had to pick one to ref a fight I was to be in... I'd probably go with herb dean that guy has been on the money so much lately.


As for dan mirgliottafindanotherjob...

 

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This is stated again and again whenever there is a reffing controversy. THE UFC HAS NO SAY IN WHO REFEREES FIGHTS. The athletic commission of the state decides who referees what events and what particular fights. It is New Jersey's athletic commission that allows Mirgliotta to continue refereeing in NJ. Promotions can request certain referees not be allowed to work events and fighters can even request referees not to work their fights, but it's up to the commission to decide.

I hate the fact that Mirgliotta can continue to get work but it's probably due to him having a friend in the commission or something. It's certainly doesn't have anything to do with his ability to do his job. He's probably injured more fighters and made more bad calls than every other referee combined. I mean he poked Heath Herring in the eye, nearly injured Akahiro Gono twice by pushing him to the ground on two separate occasions in the same fight, stopping the Kimbo/James Thompson because of a bloody ear (and not stopping the fight earlier when Thompson had landed 24 unanswered strikes in the crucifix), he also called Werdum/Vera too early and warned the wrong fighter when he was up-kicked by his opponent.

He's a shitty referee and needs to be kept far FAR away from the cage. Still, the UFC has no choice in who ref's the fights.
That is not entirely true. The UFC conducts events in countries abroad that have no presiding commission. In these cases Marc Ratner, the UFC's VP of Regualtory Affairs, selects the officials. At these events they've given Dan plenty of work, so apparently they have no issue with his refereeing.
 

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I don't know why, but whenever I think "Dan Miragliotta is still reffing in the UFC" I also think "make you an offer you can't refuse."
 

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I don't know why, but whenever I think "Dan Miragliotta is still reffing in the UFC" I also think "make you an offer you can't refuse."

HOW DARE YOU BESMIRCH THE GOOD NAME OF DAN MIRGLIOTTA!!!! I'm fairly certain you are the first person to EVER make such an assertion! :-D
 
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