[johnbender]

The ONLY thing that stands out past the UFC is the tournys.

How else can you prove whos really the best???

What do you think about the UFC holding a tournament in each division? Especially heavyweight (Would be fun to see) Back in the early days of 3 fights in one night was incredible, especially when the poor guys are running on fumes come the finals lol

But seriously even if it was held over several months, A TOURNAMENT would really show who the best is, and stop a lot of these arguements as to WHO THE BEST LHW, MW etc...

Who do you think would win in each division?

 

[johnbender]

Heres My picks

Jens Pulver

Georges St.Pierre

Anderson Silva

Chuck Lidell

Andre Arlovski

And it Belfort got his FN SH*T together I think he'd Pwn

 

[sxrxnrr]

If there was a tourniment I would like to see the LHW with the HW just because there is no talent in the HW devision.

I know everybody is going to say that they are too big. Who cares in pride the lighter guys do it.

 

[johnbender]

I agree

Back in the days of the first few UFCS, size didnt matter at all. They even had that DAVID VS GOLIATH show, where everyone who was smaller won the fight over the bigger guy. (I think the "Polar Bear" Paul Varlans was the one big guy who made it through further. (where is he I liked him lol)

Anyway I dont think Size matters THAT much, it didnt back then, so why should it now>?

 

[j.farrell]

i think they should do tournaments, but they shouldnt do one nighters. they should follow suite from pride and stretch it through out the year. i think it is the best way to determine who is the best and the best way to determine the way the fighters are ranked.

 

[Spit206Fire]

Just wondering because you all say tourniments show who really is the best. Do you think Mirko Cro Cop is better then Fedor? If not then the tourniment doesn't prove who's the best.


I still like the idea, but id like to see it without the Champions in each weight class, then the winner of each weight class gets a title shot, i think that'd be sweet.

 

[johnbender]

Spitfire good suggestion

I think thats an even better idea! Ya everyone EXCEPT the champions in the tournaments. and the winners fight the champs, good idea

As for CroCop and Fedor, Im one of the guys who say Fedor aint what hes made out to be cause hes fought a lot of cans.

YES hes GREAT, but I think another shot at CroCop he might not be so lucky..

Personally, I think he's beatable

Dont yell at me its just my own opinion lol, but I can think of a few guys who might take away Fedors belt, and their not Walk throughs like a lot of his past opponents:cheeky4:

 

[Pogo the Clown]

I don't think the Nevada State Athletic Commission would allow them to do tourneys. Otherwise I think its a great idea.


Pogo

 

[ZZtigerZZ81]

Who are the guys that can take away Fedor's belt?
And btw, what did you think of Belfort's recent fight against Hendo?

 

[sxrxnrr]

Just wondering because you all say tourniments show who really is the best. Do you think Mirko Cro Cop is better then Fedor? If not then the tourniment doesn't prove who's the best.

Fedor was injured. So I am not sure what you are getting at. He won the last tourniment he was healthy for.

The fact that they do fight multiple fights in one night does prove something. If you look at UFC 3 when Kemo took Royce into a long fight he was not able to fight in the finals. It adds excitment, and a wild card. I am not saying they should fight 4 fights in a night to win that be a bit much but a couple makes for an intersting night. Some devisions like the LHW have become stale to me and I would like to see a differant format. The pride tournements lets people fight up in weight and you get to see some more exciting matches.

 

[johnbender]

hmmmmm

Who MIGHT have a shot at Fedor?

Ok well CroCop obviously, Wandy too. Maybe Josh Barnett or Monson?

From UFC I'd Say Arlovski could do something, if he was at the top of his game and caught Fedor a few good ones. You never know?

But the people hes been fighting havent exaclty been TOP caliber.

I mean COME ON look at who they throw at him recently. Coleman?
Jeez theres 6 more fighters I can name that would walk all over Coleman,
just seems their trying to keep that title around his waist. Not that the UFC doesnt seem to play the same game...

No I didnt see Vitors last fight. How did it go?:dunno:

 

[asskicker]

Back in the days of the first few UFCS, size didnt matter at all. They even had that DAVID VS GOLIATH show, where everyone who was smaller won the fight over the bigger guy. (I think the "Polar Bear" Paul Varlans was the one big guy who made it through further. (where is he I liked him lol)

Anyway I dont think Size matters THAT much, it didnt back then, so why should it now>?

Size didnt matter back then because no one was well rounded and the little guy won because his style was better. Now everyone pretty well rounded and size would play a huge role.

 

[johnbender]

Never saw Vitors last fight

I wish I had seen it. How did it go???

And yes I think the Tourny proves LOTS, a HELL of a lot more than these 1 on 1 fights which are based on selling tickets and who draws more crowds and attention rather than moving up the ranks.

If I see one more TUF fighter in a UFC ppv Im gonna scream!!!

Meanwhile we got Bisping no where to be seen, whos only ONE of several good fighters who are only seen here and there. Lets find out whos the BEST
if it has to be in each division then I guess theres still more than 1 champ (Which I dont agree with, again I refer to the David Vs Goliath PPV)

 

[johnbender]

Asskicker

"Size didnt matter back then because no one was well rounded and the little guy won because his style was better. Now everyone pretty well rounded and size would play a huge role."

I agree with you somewhat but theres no way to prove that the smaller guys in that tourny had more skill than the bigger ones. If everyone is so well rounded then everything is pretty much on the level right? I dont know man its not just that one ppv that Im referring to either. Look at all the previous ones and the early ufcs where there were no weight classes. Dan Severn was HUGE compared to a lot of those guys and he didnt win every tourny, neither did Kimo. And those guys werent UNSKILLED either.

It takes a lot more than Size to win, Im a big believer in that. (Even though Im 6"3 lol) Everyone has a face, and a brain, and when you get smashed good, you go down. Dont matter if your 7 feet tall or 500 pounds!

 

[asskicker]

I wish I had seen it. How did it go???

And yes I think the Tourny proves LOTS, a HELL of a lot more than these 1 on 1 fights which are based on selling tickets and who draws more crowds and attention rather than moving up the ranks.

If I see one more TUF fighter in a UFC ppv Im gonna scream!!!

Meanwhile we got Bisping no where to be seen, whos only ONE of several good fighters who are only seen here and there. Lets find out whos the BEST
if it has to be in each division then I guess theres still more than 1 champ (Which I dont agree with, again I refer to the David Vs Goliath PPV)

How does 1 on 1 match ups not prove anything? What if one guy has an easier road to the finals than the other and wins because his opponent was fatigued. 1 on 1 is more fair. You have 2 fighters going at it at 100%

 

[johnbender]

Ya thats true. But they dont have to do it all in one night like they did way back when. (I never agreed with what happened to poor Royce after the first few fights and had nothing left for the finals)

Lets say... The heavyweight division. Every PPV they have a special fight called "The Quest for the belt" (Dont laugh Im just making my point lol)

then over the course of a year they've probably gone through all the eliminations, and can have a special ppv with the remaining matches for the REAL HW champ?

Whatcha think?

Needs work I know but its an idea/?

 

[CashKola]

I say do the same thing Pride does, just take the same idea. Many of the North American fans won't know it was taken from Pride anyway, and I think they would love it.

 

[AtomDanger]

I think a once a year, voluntary tournament for cash would be awesome.

 

[Slamnbam88]

I think a once a year, voluntary tournament for cash would be awesome.

people would def. bite on that if there was no effect on their current standings...like if you had to fight penn/gsp/ matt hughes/silva in the same day that would be exausting. people like gsp who push the pace would make it sooo hard (even if you won) to be any good afterwards.


size does matter...thats why they have weight class's

theirs a big diff between gracie beating two 300pd fat bodybuilders in one night then the current mma guys there are today