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Pride USA producer Jerry Millen was recently a guest on Scott Ferrall's radio show on Sirius Satellite Radio, and an explosive verbal confrontation ensued when UFC president Dana White called into the show during Millen's interview.

The vast majority of the disagreements between White and Millen were focused on the now-cancelled fight between the UFC's Chuck Liddell and Pride's Wanderlei Silva.

For readers who are unfamiliar with the situation, the Liddell-Silva fight was announced by White during the UFC 61 event on July 8th, but no actual contracts were signed at the time. Negotiations between the UFC and Pride broke down shortly thereafter, despite the fact that by all accounts both Liddell and Silva want the fight to happen.

Also, while the UFC and Pride have both subsequently made conflicting statements on the matter, MMAWeekly was told by sources in mid-August (and reported in the Rumors section) that the Liddell-Silva fight was already off at that time. This was not only before Silva fought Mirko Cro Cop, but it was also before Liddell fought Renato "Babalu" Sobral.

Nevertheless, both sides stuck to their guns during the interview, and the result was a lot of contentious back-and-forth exchanges.

There has been some misinformation about what was and wasn't said during the interview, so we hope to clear up any misconceptions by using actual quotes based on the actual audio.

During the interview, White said, "I've been trying to do Wanderlei [Silva] vs. Chuck [Liddell] for five years... not to mention the fact, didn't Wanderlei just get executed? ... Nobody buys their [Pride] pay-per-views in the United States, so I'll let everyone know what happened. Wanderlei Silva got beat to death for the first two rounds, then got his head kicked to another planet."

Millen responded by saying, "First two rounds? Dana, did you watch the fight? The fight didn’t go past the first round. Did one of your assistants type up a memo for you?"

White responded by saying, "I was the one guy that watched it on the Internet over here in the United States."

Millen later said, "Put your guys up. If you have such a great stable, put them up... make it [Liddell vs. Silva] happen. What's the hold up?" White responded to Millen's question by saying, "Silva just got knocked dead in the first round."

On the same subject, White later said, "I’ve been willing to do it for the last five years, they haven’t been. Now Wanderlei gets executed almost into a coma, and now they want to make the fight."

Millen said later in the interview, "Let me ask you this. You announced on your pay-per-view that if Chuck beats Babalu and Wanderlei is able to fight, the fight’s going to happen. What happened between the time you made the announcement on the pay-per-view till now? Besides going, 'Oh, he got executed,' what in the negotiations process broke down to make this fight not happen?"

In response to Millen's question, White posed a question of his own, asking if Millen is aware of the problems that Pride is having in Japan (losing the Fuji TV deal, etc). Millen replied, "I'm just asking you why this fight is not happening," at which point White said, "This is exactly why it's not happening, because you [Pride] are having a lot of problems."

At that point, Millen said, "You’re saying it’s not going to happen because you don’t want it to happen, correct?" Both sides were very agitated, and White's response was, "You guys say you’re going to do something and you never f---ing do it."

When the host of the show later asked if White was ready to restart negotiations with Pride, White said, "I’m sick of them, but if they want to give us Wanderlei Silva to fight in the UFC, I’m in."

At one point in the interview, White questioned how much the Pride USA producer knew about the negotiations and said to Millen, "You don't know s---" at which point Millen shot the same inflammatory statement back at White.

When Millen asked White, "Why wouldn’t you give us Tim Sylvia?" White responded by saying "because he [Sylvia] is fighting on November 18th." Millen then asked, "Why won't you throw him in a Pride fight?" to which White responded, "Why the f--- would I throw him in a Pride fight, you retard, when he's going to fight in my fight?"

White later said, "You guys don’t do any pay-per-view buys here in America and you got kicked off television in Japan. Of course you’re going to come over here and want my fighters in your show. You guys suck, so of course you need them."

Later in the interview, Millen invited White to attend Pride's debut show in the United States, and White accepted the invitation.

Millen said, "Dana, listen. October 21st, I have a pair of ringside Pride tickets for you so that you can see what a real MMA event is like." White's response: "I'll be there."


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i wanna fight dana

in the octagon...no one watchs Prode hahahahha yea right...hes so scared Pride is gonna take over
 

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ohh yea

thnx for tha article im glad to hear something about this subject..u get rep for that
 

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Nice find. :thumbsup: White is such an idiot, "Silva got executed" well duh, he was out of his weight division and out classed. The doctors could clear him medically, and he would be able to fight but Dana is scared of what Pride "can do". They have a lot of potential and can do big things in the US. I hope White does show up to the show but I doubt he will. IMO, I think the only reason Pride wants UFC fighters on their cards, is so they can prove to the US audience that Pride has better fighters. :dunno:
 

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Market Share!!

Dana White is doing the right thing. UFC owns almost 100% of the market share on MMA in the US and Canada. If he was to allow a UFC champion, Tim Sylvia, to fight in a Pride show, it only moves UFC fans to Pride. It would not bring Pride fans to UFC. The Silva argument has been settled due to the fact that the US will not allow a fighter who has been KO'd to fight for 90 days. All of us fight fans can whine and cry about not getting to see the match ups that we want but we keep buying the PPV's with the crappy match ups so why would they change? The cage is still way better than the ring.
 

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I hate the cage. Crappy fighter's get cheap wins when they pin a guy on the cage. I like the restart in the middle of a ring. I also disagree that ufc fans will go to pride and vis versa if silvia was to fight in pride. They just want to see a good fight. Same with wand and chuck. Everyone knows dana likes to protect his golden boys. He is cheap and that's why his talent pool is drying up. Why didn't he sign heath herring, or rampage. He could be so good for the sport but isn't. He doesn't want these fight's to happen cause pride will get the revenue generated by people who really want to see these fight's. It's all about money.
 

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I have a lot of respect of Dana White and what he has done for MMA in America, but he is really losing my respect with his displays of knowledge on MMA.

He should throw together this card with PRIDE, I'm sure they could split the profits on this and eat well:

Fedor v Sylvia
Crocop v Arlovski
Wandy v Liddell
Henderson v Franklin
Gomi v Sherk
Aurelio v KenFlo

maybe throw on Barnett v Monson, Belfort v Shamrock and Shogun v Ortiz and I'd be happy.
 

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1st how do you think dana lost the argument? lol He totally exposed PRIDE's Problems in not haven PPV spots in America and showing how they DID get kicked off Japanesse TV (which is true). He also had a resonable excuse for every statement that Miller had against him, Dana right now has a gem, why would you take a gem and cover it in mud?

His money growth is expanding over boxing and PRIDE right now has no air time.

Hardcore MMA fans may know pride but home watchers who just like to watch the shows on TV and watch TUF don't have any clue at PRIDE other then what they've heard from friends probably.

2nd Why would you say cages are pathedic? because the fighter has to learn some sort of ground game and can't back under a rope and get a reset. Any fighter knows the obvious advantages from Ring vs Cage, the only people who don't like cages are strikers, because they have to learn alot more takedown defence and have a much better ground game.
I've been fighting for the last 2 years of my life and training for about the last 6 or 7 roughly. I'd love to fight anyone who thinks the cage is just for sissys and its just for lay and pray people.
 

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Spit206Fire said:
1st how do you think dana lost the argument? lol He totally exposed PRIDE's Problems in not haven PPV spots in America and showing how they DID get kicked off Japanesse TV (which is true). He also had a resonable excuse for every statement that Miller had against him, Dana right now has a gem, why would you take a gem and cover it in mud?

His money growth is expanding over boxing and PRIDE right now has no air time.

Hardcore MMA fans may know pride but home watchers who just like to watch the shows on TV and watch TUF don't have any clue at PRIDE other then what they've heard from friends probably.

2nd Why would you say cages are pathedic? because the fighter has to learn some sort of ground game and can't back under a rope and get a reset. Any fighter knows the obvious advantages from Ring vs Cage, the only people who don't like cages are strikers, because they have to learn alot more takedown defence and have a much better ground game.
I've been fighting for the last 2 years of my life and training for about the last 6 or 7 roughly. I'd love to fight anyone who thinks the cage is just for sissys and its just for lay and pray people.

I back this man up. Great post brother.

Dana White is the winner of this arguement.

All Pride does is complain. Sure, they pay fighters better, but if they really wanted to have the fight they would send over Wand by now.

Dana did his share. He sent over Chuck. Its Japan's turn, and yet the stagger.
 

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he should

Take inconsideration what the fans want to see i mean we pay his bills
 

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MMA freak said:
Marcus Aurelio .vs. Kenny Florian? That is completely lopsided, Marcus Aurelio would destroy Kenny.
I know, but he's sort of in the same position as KenFlo. They both have a shot at being lightweight champion (well, Aurelio doesn't anymore, after his loss) and they both have almost no shot at winning.
 

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Spit206Fire said:
1st how do you think dana lost the argument? lol He totally exposed PRIDE's Problems in not haven PPV spots in America and showing how they DID get kicked off Japanesse TV (which is true). He also had a resonable excuse for every statement that Miller had against him, Dana right now has a gem, why would you take a gem and cover it in mud?

His money growth is expanding over boxing and PRIDE right now has no air time.

Hardcore MMA fans may know pride but home watchers who just like to watch the shows on TV and watch TUF don't have any clue at PRIDE other then what they've heard from friends probably.

2nd Why would you say cages are pathedic? because the fighter has to learn some sort of ground game and can't back under a rope and get a reset. Any fighter knows the obvious advantages from Ring vs Cage, the only people who don't like cages are strikers, because they have to learn alot more takedown defence and have a much better ground game.
I've been fighting for the last 2 years of my life and training for about the last 6 or 7 roughly. I'd love to fight anyone who thinks the cage is just for sissys and its just for lay and pray people.
wait wait wait... you're saying that in the UFC, there's more of a ground game than in PRIDE because of the cage? are you serious? all the cage does is provide a wall for people like hughes to push people up against and rain elbows down on... are you really saying that the UFC has a more in depth ground game than PRIDE??? wow... you've obviously never seen PRIDE cause nobody just goes out the ropes in PRIDE to escape, since if that happens, they're restarted in the same position in the middle of the ring. you can't escape a position in PRIDE by doing that. you have obviously never seen a single PRIDE fight!!!
 

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Both Sides Need To Either Put Up Or Shutup!!!!!! End Of Story!!!!! Im Sick And Tired Of All This He/said She/said B.s. If They Need To Have A Formal Sit Down Then By All Means Do It!!!! But Give Me What I And The Rest Of You Want To See!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! As It Stands Right Now Both Sides Are Acting Like A Bunch Of
Beeoches!!!!!!!!! And For The Main Event Dana White Vs. Nobuyuki Sakakibara!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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I agree they both need to put up or shut up. What I thought made Dana look so bad is when Millen asked what happened between now and UFC 61 to make Wand/Chuck not happen other than Silva got executed, Dana completly changed the subject. We all know there is no shame in getting beat by Cro Cop. Well most of us anyway, and that its no excuse to cancel the fight. Dont get me wrong Ive always liked Dana but I dont like him in this interview at all.
 
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