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the thing is everyone has shamrock as the underdog i thinkhe is gonna kill tito THIS IS MY REASON!!

shamrock has nothin to lose and has alot to porve to himself he is takin the fight very serosly and tito thinks the idea of a rematch is funny so shammy is far more deturmined

the last time they faught shamrock had a blown out acl and was no were nere ready to fight and it was his first fight back after a long absece TITO was at his best and dominating his divition at the time and was still unable to keep shamrock down and tko him so even with ring rust age and a badly torn acl he still got up fron tito mount TWICE tito hit shamrock with everything he had and could not finnish him

NOW! tito is not at his best enymore shamrock is at 100% and looks in great shape if tito could not keep shamrock down or finnsh him back then when he was rusty and hurt how the hell is he gonna keep him down when he is at 100% it isnt gonna happen all you people are silly thinkin tito is gonna run all over him.

we all know what shamrock is capable of and i consider tito the underdog of this fight and when shamrock knocks the hell out of him i will be here the laf at all you tito fans after seeing tito allmost get beaten by forest i cant see him destroyin shamrock tito loses heart very quickly if shamrock can beat him the forst round he will have the fight in the bag I HAVE NEVER SEEN SHAMROCK MORE DETERMIND TO WIN IN HIS WHOLE CAREER AND TITO MAYBE TAKING SHAMROCK LIGHTLY i predict a shamrock vs tito 3 comin
 

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No i'm pretty sure tito is gonna win. The house is on him
 

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iceman574 said:
the thing is everyone has shamrock as the underdog i thinkhe is gonna kill tito THIS IS MY REASON!!

shamrock has nothin to lose and has alot to porve to himself he is takin the fight very serosly and tito thinks the idea of a rematch is funny so shammy is far more deturmined

the last time they faught shamrock had a blown out acl and was no were nere ready to fight and it was his first fight back after a long absece TITO was at his best and dominating his divition at the time and was still unable to keep shamrock down and tko him so even with ring rust age and a badly torn acl he still got up fron tito mount TWICE tito hit shamrock with everything he had and could not finnish him

NOW! tito is not at his best enymore shamrock is at 100% and looks in great shape if tito could not keep shamrock down or finnsh him back then when he was rusty and hurt how the hell is he gonna keep him down when he is at 100% it isnt gonna happen all you people are silly thinkin tito is gonna run all over him.

we all know what shamrock is capable of and i consider tito the underdog of this fight and when shamrock knocks the hell out of him i will be here the laf at all you tito fans after seeing tito allmost get beaten by forest i cant see him destroyin shamrock tito loses heart very quickly if shamrock can beat him the forst round he will have the fight in the bag I HAVE NEVER SEEN SHAMROCK MORE DETERMIND TO WIN IN HIS WHOLE CAREER AND TITO MAYBE TAKING SHAMROCK LIGHTLY i predict a shamrock vs tito 3 comin
First of all moron learn how to spell. Second Tito will win the fight. In the last fight you claim that Shamrock "explodes from the mount" thats funny man because i dont recall a single time when Tito mounted him. Ken has somewhat of a heart I guess I have to give him that. Oh wait no I don't I seem to remember him looking distressed, winded, and absolutely destroyed in that fight. The last time I saw him fight in Pride he threw in the towell. Ken is not even a talented fighter, the few good wins he has came when the sport was young and all the fighters were basically one demensionall. Ken is a joke and Tito, like him or not IS a WORLD CLASS FIGHTER, and will beat up on Ken Shamcock.
 

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ok first of all there is no need to call me a moron for expressin my views and as for sayin that shamrock isnot a talented fighter just goes to show how little you know about mma you clearly have not seen his pride fights ken shamrock has evolved with the sport to say he is no good is a very sill and stupid thing to say he is the only fighter from the beggining who is still fighting today but if you want to be arrogent then fine but if he was not talented he wouldnt be were he is today would he

on the the topic at hand tito loses heart really quickly all ken has to do is avoid a few take downs and tito will give up i think ken has far better ground skills than tito the guy pretty mutch wrote the book ken is a mutch stronger stricker than tito when tito fought forest he just stood there and was unable to take forest down or finnish the fight. if that had been shamrock fightin him he would of been killed you not givin shamrock enough credit i dont like tito but i still respect the fact that he is a great fighter

tito is no were close to being has good as he was and the last time they fought ken has not competed in years tito was the champion of course he was gonna lose plus he was injured

just by sayin shamrock is not skilled makes me think that you dont have a clue you see unlike gracie shamrock has evolved and was one of the first fighters to defeat and become an mma fighter.

AND THE LAST TIME I CHECKED THIS WAS NOT A SPELLIN TEST IF YOU DONT HAVE THE BRAIN POWER TO POST SOMETHING INTELLAGENT THEN THATS YOU PROBLEM DONT CORRECT ME ON MY GRAMMER.

i am not gonna bash you so dont bash me these forums are for fans who wish to express there opinions not talk trash
 

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First of all moron learn how to spell. Second Tito will win the fight. In the last fight you claim that Shamrock "explodes from the mount" thats funny man because i dont recall a single time when Tito mounted him. Ken has somewhat of a heart I guess I have to give him that. Oh wait no I don't I seem to remember him looking distressed, winded, and absolutely destroyed in that fight. The last time I saw him fight in Pride he threw in the towell. Ken is not even a talented fighter, the few good wins he has came when the sport was young and all the fighters were basically one demensionall. Ken is a joke and Tito, like him or not IS a WORLD CLASS FIGHTER, and will beat up on Ken Shamcock.
I agree with Iceman you should really watch that fight again Tito dominated but was unable to finish Ken coz Ken had too much heart.
 

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I watched Ken Shamrock vs Tito Ortiz from UFC 40: Vendetta last night and Tito did dominate most of the fight. It does suck that Shamrock had an injury (torn ACL) but he could've done much better in that fight.
 

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I watched Ken Shamrock vs Tito Ortiz from UFC 40: Vendetta last night and Tito did dominate most of the fight. It does suck that Shamrock had an injury (torn ACL) but he could've done much better in that fight.
Wait for the rematch Titos in for a big surprise theres no way Ken will be dominated like last time.

Look at it this Ken was injured the first time hes not now and then theres Tito he struggled to beat Forrest meaning Titos not 100% and that enough for him to lose the way i see it this fight could go either way.
 

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ok first of all there is no need to call me a moron for expressin my views and as for sayin that shamrock isnot a talented fighter just goes to show how little you know about mma you clearly have not seen his pride fights ken shamrock has evolved with the sport to say he is no good is a very sill and stupid thing to say he is the only fighter from the beggining who is still fighting today but if you want to be arrogent then fine but if he was not talented he wouldnt be were he is today would he

on the the topic at hand tito loses heart really quickly all ken has to do is avoid a few take downs and tito will give up i think ken has far better ground skills than tito the guy pretty mutch wrote the book ken is a mutch stronger stricker than tito when tito fought forest he just stood there and was unable to take forest down or finnish the fight. if that had been shamrock fightin him he would of been killed you not givin shamrock enough credit i dont like tito but i still respect the fact that he is a great fighter

tito is no were close to being has good as he was and the last time they fought ken has not competed in years tito was the champion of course he was gonna lose plus he was injured

just by sayin shamrock is not skilled makes me think that you dont have a clue you see unlike gracie shamrock has evolved and was one of the first fighters to defeat and become an mma fighter.

AND THE LAST TIME I CHECKED THIS WAS NOT A SPELLIN TEST IF YOU DONT HAVE THE BRAIN POWER TO POST SOMETHING INTELLAGENT THEN THATS YOU PROBLEM DONT CORRECT ME ON MY GRAMMER.

i am not gonna bash you so dont bash me these forums are for fans who wish to express there opinions not talk trash
Come on man trash talkin is what its all about, otherwise what are we doin here??? And what is this book you talk about? The majority of the Ken Tito fight took place on the ground, and from what is saw (which could'nt be much because I know nothing about MMA) Tito dominated the entire ground battle, Ken posed no threat. And yes I have seen Ken's Pride fights, I have seen him throw in the towell because he was gassed out. I'm sorry man, Ken is just not that good. Like i said before, when he was an actuall contender the guys he fought were and are now obsolete fighters. One more thing you are basing your opinion of Tito on 1 fight. Tito is still what he was, everyone has a bad day, hell Ken most always has a bad day in the octagon. So lets do a little research before shooting off at the mouth.
 

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I think this isn't a one sided fight for ethier man I think this is going to be a battle with Tito having just enough of a skill advantage to take the win, he will no dominate like he did the first fight though.
 

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I agree with Iceman you should really watch that fight again Tito dominated but was unable to finish Ken coz Ken had too much heart.
No Tito did not finish Ken, but Tito really isnt known as a big finisher like Chuck or Franklin. Tito is content just to put you on your back and feed you elbows. I have to give it to Ken he showed some heart by jumping back to his feat a few times, but from his guard he had no offense, on the feet he landed 1 good right hand, so to say he has too much heart is just false. He gasses easy and he always looks frustrated in a fight. Just because he was there from the start does not make him a world class fighter like Tito, its about $$$$$$$, ticket sale, hype, and publicity, because people know the name Ken Shamrock and assume he is something that he is not.
 

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No Tito did not finish Ken, but Tito really isnt known as a big finisher like Chuck or Franklin. Tito is content just to put you on your back and feed you elbows. I have to give it to Ken he showed some heart by jumping back to his feat a few times, but from his guard he had no offense, on the feet he landed 1 good right hand, so to say he has too much heart is just false. He gasses easy and he always looks frustrated in a fight. Just because he was there from the start does not make him a world class fighter like Tito, its about $$$$$$$, ticket sale, hype, and publicity, because people know the name Ken Shamrock and assume he is something that he is not.
Ken always looks frustrated no matter what he is doing. like he is forever trying to have a bowel movement.
 

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so out of curiosty if ken wins will he still not be a good fighter if ken beats tito i am ganna come here and make all of you eat you words all that talk of ken is not a good fighter is gonna make you look really stupid if ken wins. if tito wins whitch i dont think he will ill admit that i was wrong and maybe ken should retire

i cant wait there is so many tito lovers who think shamrock is a washed up has been i think shamrock needs this one if he gets dominated agein he should retire but by sayin that he is not talented if the fight goes the distance or if shamrock even comes close to winning then you will be wrong cos a has been with no talent would not be able to fight tito so tito must be rubbish aswell the onlyway your claim can be true is if tito dominates him

i am gonna rub it in your faces so badly i cant wait lol
 

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the thing what gets me is that when he fought tito last time he had not faught in years as he was doing wwe so his first comeback fight was ageinst the lightheavyweight champion tito was unstoppable at that time of course ken lost he would have lost torn acl or not he was not ready for tito that doesnt meen he has lost it tito is a world class fighter tanner lost to him but i conider him one of the bst out there

then he lost to franklin who went on the become the most dominant middleweight in the history of the ufc and to be fair shamrock just got unluck in that fight he slipped twice and the fight ended with franklin takin advantage of the slip but my point is he has had 2 losses both to really big names he isnt washed up!! he was just rusty i dont care who you are if matt huges left for a few years then came back and fought the new weterweight champion he would lose 2 that doesnt meen he would be washed up just meens he hasnt gotten his edge back yet takes time to get to your old glory

this happens alot like frank mir he loses his comeback fight now all of a sudden he is washed up WHAT 99.9% of fighters who come back from an injury or long absence are not as dominant what is franklin loses when he comes back will he be washed up to
 

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hopefully he will i like shamrock and would like him to take this. he need this victory

this is what i HOPE WILL HAPPEN LOL

shamrock to beat tito, then babalu lose to chuck then shamrock get a fight with bablu beat him then get a title shot a chuck liddel and beat him becoming the new light heavyweight champion defend it a few times then retire as champ or retire when he loses the belt.

how awsome would that be if that happend he will have exeeded royce he will forever be known as the greatest mma fighter of all time i know the chances of this happening are ver very slim but i can allways hope and dream

UFC ENYTHING CAN HAPPEN
 

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Everyone knows Tito is injured right???


Ken is older but is in great shape.
He does have very good submissions and some what of a solid stand up game(lol even though his kicks make chris Lebens look like cro cop)

Cherry Lips didnt look so great in his last fight...But neither did Sham.
If i realy had to bet on it id say Tito wins!

Hey maybe Old shamrock will catch a submission on get a cheap cut and win.
I realy dont care who wins thefight i just want it to be exciting.
 
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